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DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by Zhyl »

seiko988 wrote: post #149
Accacin wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not doubting you, but do you have any sources for your claims? I will use Qwant in the future but at the minute it's not suitable (IMO) for daily usage. Ecosia seems like a great idea, but these kind of 'Search and earn' sites have always seemed like a scam to me and I can't find any reason to trust Ecosia over DDG.

I've had very good results with cliqz as far as European search engines go. https://beta.cliqz.com/

I find cliqz is very good at natural language queries, but doesn't have the index size a lot of the time. You either end up with 10 results that are exactly what you were searching for or nothing.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by def_true_false »

askvictor wrote: post #128
fghgfhg wrote: post #122

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> Their map data was far superior to Google Maps and their cab app felt better than Uber. How?

Haven't been to Russia or used Yandex, but I'd guess that the Russian Govt/Agencies give more accurate/up-to-date data to a Russian company instead of Google? This and a local presence to understand local nuances etc.

Google is capable of providing inferior service all on its own, no shady stuff required.

E.g. http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparis...

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by Zhyl »

fghtr wrote: post #200
mikorym wrote: post #187

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Can't we have an open source search engine with publicly sourced "indices"? Anyone who wants can then crawl the web and build a graph of parts of the internet. The search part and the crawling code would be open source. What's the problem?

Here you go: https://yacy.net

What's the status with YaCy like these days? I tried installing it about 7 years ago and the results left something to be desired.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by latexr »

nunobrito wrote: post #121

DuckDuckGo is only private if you trust their word. Over the years they continue to refuse access for a trusted third-party auditor to review their infrastructure and validate (or not) their claims of privacy. The preference of Android to place DDG in Europe (31 out of 31 countries) is strange when considering privacy as argument. Then is placed this "info.com" as second option on all European countries (31 out of 31…

> Talking from Germany, the preference here would be http://ecosia.com

Which is essentially Bing[1], including the ads[2].

[1]: https://ecosia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/206153381-Where...

[2]: https://ecosia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/206019452-How-d...

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by leokennis »

AdamSC1 wrote: post #186
skrebbel wrote: post #111

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It's also not very well targeted at global reach. I mean, I assume it's a reference to something in some language / locale? Or, is the humor just super absurdist, i.e. they might've called it ShoeShoeEat and it would've been equally "humorous"? Assuming the first, it simply means they never imagined being used by people other than (I guess) Americans. Which is unfortunate, but forgiveable. It's also a terrible finger…

You can use duck.com

Or, for true professionals, https://ddg.gg/.

That's almost the most "grey suit" URL possible.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by surround »

gdfasfklshg4 wrote: post #98
surround wrote: post #38

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Try !s (Startpage, which is based on Google’s index)

Didn't Startpage change ownership recently?

Yes, which is why I’d recommend using DDG primarily and only using !s when you need better results. Using Startpage is probably better than using Google directly.

There is debate over the legitimacy of Startpage, see: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/156...

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by latexr »

OJFord wrote: post #193
skrebbel wrote: post #111

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It's also not very well targeted at global reach. I mean, I assume it's a reference to something in some language / locale? Or, is the humor just super absurdist, i.e. they might've called it ShoeShoeEat and it would've been equally "humorous"? Assuming the first, it simply means they never imagined being used by people other than (I guess) Americans. Which is unfortunate, but forgiveable. It's also a terrible finger…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck,_duck,_goose (I assume, anyway.) I happen to remember it from a drama lesson at school in the UK, but I'm pretty sure it's predominantly American, yes.

> (I assume, anyway.)

You assume correctly. The Wikipedia page for DuckDuckGo mentions it at the top, with two references.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by eitland »

londons_explore wrote: post #152
skinkestek wrote: post #142

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Can someone who knows about the inside of Google tell us why this happened, and especially why it happens when verbatim mode is used alone or in addition to double quotes? I can kind of see why double quotes could be confusing for people pasting without being aware of the double quotes rule, but ignoring verbatim outright as has been the standard for years now is even more confusing to me.

Usually when people have this concern, it's because the page they are looking for does not exist . I'd like to see examples where you do a search looking for a specific page, either with or without verbatim or double-quotes, and then find it via some other query. Sure, it happens, but it's very rare.

Would this count?

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22vulnerable+over+and+over+...

The page it is taken from is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22032966

It is clearly indexed as it shows up in this search: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&biw=414&bih...

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by fghtr »

Zhyl wrote: post #203
fghtr wrote: post #200

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Here you go: https://yacy.net

What's the status with YaCy like these days? I tried installing it about 7 years ago and the results left something to be desired.

It is still far from being actually useful afaik. We need much more people involved I guess.
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