Um so this really is just for Apple right? I assume everyone else has moved to USB-C now?
EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
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Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#72Didn't the EU force phone makers to standardize on USB a couple of decades ago? It was an absolute nightmare before that with every brand having completely different connector, voltage etc. I'm not sure how Apple got (and are getting) around this.
eh no. that was like 2 years ago not decades.
2009:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply
I'm out few years too, but I think the manufacturers knew this was coming years before, so many switched in the mid 2000s if I remember
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#73Why stop at mobile phones? Is there a reason laptops need so many different connectors? I am willing to bet many random connectors are just planned obsolescence or a secondary revenue stream for producers. Also, let's take this further. Any reason laptop displays can't internally have a rather standardised connector? We are throwing away perfectly good displays on broken laptops. What if I could buy a $20 adaptor and…
Let's take this further still. Why not mandate identical car tire sizes, having the fuel door in the same spot on every car, all the controls inside the car be universal... How about actually just making one car that embodies every European's needs?
Car tyres have standardised valves and fuel inlets are also standardised, and those two things are the exact equivalents to a mobile phone charging port.
Car controls are obviously universal as well, so I'm not sure what your point actually is.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#74Awesome. I've already started doing my own move to all things USB-C by making a custom made board [1] (which is also for sale [2]). I have so far converted 10 devices at home and gotten rid of their bulky bricks. [1]: https://blog.oxplot.com/usb-pd-standalone-sink-controller/ [2]: https://www.tindie.com/products/oxplot/stusb4500-compact-bre...
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Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#75I'm surprised this hasn't been done before! The trouble it would have saved me throughout life when stranded somewhere without my own charger, but unable to use another's. Someone mentioned laptop connectors, too. That would also be great, but since I usually travel with intention with my laptop while I passively have my phone on me all the time, the need isn't exactly on the same level.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you also say that about wheel-chair ramps? Accessibility is not a preference.
Phones are still able to output analog (and digital!) audio using a dongle. Ducking behind accessibility because you don't want to use a dongle seems a little disingenuous.
OH good and mandate separate mic and audio out as well :-)
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#77Why stop at mobile phones? Is there a reason laptops need so many different connectors? I am willing to bet many random connectors are just planned obsolescence or a secondary revenue stream for producers. Also, let's take this further. Any reason laptop displays can't internally have a rather standardised connector? We are throwing away perfectly good displays on broken laptops. What if I could buy a $20 adaptor and…
Well, at least one reason for different connectors is the fact that USB-C cannot support more than 100W(20V at 5amps). But I agree that literally every single laptop on the market that's below 100W should just use USB-C for charging.
My XPS 13 can suck 130W through its USB-C connector. For example with the TB-16 dock.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#78Why stop at mobile phones? Is there a reason laptops need so many different connectors? I am willing to bet many random connectors are just planned obsolescence or a secondary revenue stream for producers. Also, let's take this further. Any reason laptop displays can't internally have a rather standardised connector? We are throwing away perfectly good displays on broken laptops. What if I could buy a $20 adaptor and…
They at least push not only for mobiles:
> A common charger should fit all mobile phones, tablets, e-book readers and other portable devices, MEPs will insist.
I'm really happy to see e-book readers, I hate that I need to have micro-usb just for my kindle (my phone and laptop use USB-C).
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#79Why stop at mobile phones? Is there a reason laptops need so many different connectors? I am willing to bet many random connectors are just planned obsolescence or a secondary revenue stream for producers. Also, let's take this further. Any reason laptop displays can't internally have a rather standardised connector? We are throwing away perfectly good displays on broken laptops. What if I could buy a $20 adaptor and…
IMHO everything that can be safely and reliably powered via a USB cable (of whatever a relevant standard connector type) should be powered that way nowadays (with exception of PoE and other cases where a non-USB power supply actually adds significant value for the consumer).
An unpleasant surprise I have recently experienced was a Nintendo Switch refusing to connect to an HDMI TV without being attached to a Nintendo brand charger. I can hardly believe rendering to HDMI increases power consumption so much that this is necessary and there are no standard-conformant 3-rd party chargers which can handle that. IMHO such practices should be outlawed.