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Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

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I got a moto because of this. It has _almost_ no bloatware. LinkedIn, DropBoxNativeClient, and a few other apps I don't use cannot be uninstalled. Edit: some others I can't uninstall from my international, unlocked Moto G6: Google Drive, Duo, Chrome, YouTube,

Oh wow. My Moto phones never had anything like that. Moto G3, G5, and One Vision. Bought in Germany without contract. Edit: I don't see Google apps as an (additional) problem. Google already controls the phone and its apps don't waste CPU time or memory while not active.

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Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

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post #35

Google actually had a program that addressed this head-on a few years back, where it retailed 'Google Play Edition' versions of flagship phones like the Galaxy 7, updated directly from Google, with their own factory image and no bloatware. For whatever reason, they killed the program without it really going far or being marketed well, which was a real shame: https://www.xda-developers.com/discontinued-a-look-at-googl…

probably killed because of a mix of bad results and leadership changes, like almost all of Google hardware efforts.

Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a moto because of this. It has _almost_ no bloatware. LinkedIn, DropBoxNativeClient, and a few other apps I don't use cannot be uninstalled. Edit: some others I can't uninstall from my international, unlocked Moto G6: Google Drive, Duo, Chrome, YouTube,

Oh wow. My Moto phones never had anything like that. Moto G3, G5, and One Vision. Bought in Germany without contract. Edit: I don't see Google apps as an (additional) problem. Google already controls the phone and its apps don't waste CPU time or memory while not active.

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Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

#44

Motorola (edit: and Google, Nokia, probably other) phones come without bloatware - vote with your wallets. (The preinstalled Moto apps are very small and actually quite useful, like accelerometer-based gestures for quick acces to camera or flashlight) I buy phones as a platform for software, so it makes sense to pay attention to more than the hardware.

I got a moto because of this. It has _almost_ no bloatware. LinkedIn, DropBoxNativeClient, and a few other apps I don't use cannot be uninstalled. Edit: some others I can't uninstall from my international, unlocked Moto G6: Google Drive, Duo, Chrome, YouTube,

Chrome is also the web engine for embedded web views. Even if you did uninstall Chrome, it wouldn’t do much good. The engine would still be there.

Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

#45
post #27

I'm blaming mostly Samsung for this. Because of some, for me mind-boggling, reason, Samsung grew to be The Android manufacturer, and still is today. In earlier days I really don't recall their phones being any much better than their competition. But their software was and is bloated beyond good taste. And I guess because of that, other manufacturers just followed along.

It’s not mind boggling at all. There is no money in selling Android phones. I doubt even Samsung’s phone division makes money. However, Samsung as a whole has larger margins sense it makes many of its own components.

Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

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post #35

Google actually had a program that addressed this head-on a few years back, where it retailed 'Google Play Edition' versions of flagship phones like the Galaxy 7, updated directly from Google, with their own factory image and no bloatware. For whatever reason, they killed the program without it really going far or being marketed well, which was a real shame: https://www.xda-developers.com/discontinued-a-look-at-googl…

I guess the successor is Android One, though those are still vendor images, not made and maintained by Google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One

Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

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post #35

Google actually had a program that addressed this head-on a few years back, where it retailed 'Google Play Edition' versions of flagship phones like the Galaxy 7, updated directly from Google, with their own factory image and no bloatware. For whatever reason, they killed the program without it really going far or being marketed well, which was a real shame: https://www.xda-developers.com/discontinued-a-look-at-googl…

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Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

#48
Most of the bloatware comes from Google itself: on my Samsung Phone I have Google Chrome, multiple Google Play stores, Google Keep, Google Photos (sends your photos to the Google cloud), Google Drive, Google office apps, etc.

I've never wanted all those apps, I don't even have a Google account...

Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

#49
post #5

As far as I can see Google's antitrust settlement with the European Union specifically prohibits them doing most of these things in the EU. Not sure why the organisations didn't think of that.

Why should Google be able to dictate what third party manufacturers can’t put on their phones? How would that be different than Microsoft telling manufacturers back in the day not to include Netscape?

Not that I have a horse in this race I buy iOS devices.

Re: Google pushed to take action against Android bloatware

#50
I hope this works.

On Samsung devices, we have to use hacks like using Package Disabler Pro to disable stuff:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kinder.pks...

My phone is considerably faster and and battery life is much better after using this. No to mention this probably also closes some provacy holes.

Motorola, on the other hand, does a great job by using mostly vanilla Android with just a few really useful modifications.

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