Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't even expect more than 60W chargers ..
My retired W520 got a 170 W one. So, they're out there. But probably only a few.
My gaming laptop is 180w
EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
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Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't even expect more than 60W chargers ..
My retired W520 got a 170 W one. So, they're out there. But probably only a few.
There's a 230W charger for use with current Thinkpad workstations, it's an absolute unit. [1]
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#63What about calling to stop the planned obsolescence?
Things like replaceable batteries, longer support (security patches and parts) should be a good start.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#64USB-C all the way
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't even expect more than 60W chargers ..
My retired W520 got a 170 W one. So, they're out there. But probably only a few.
My P70 is a little newer and it also runs on a 170W brick. And apparently if you go for the more powerful discrete GPU it needs a 230W one.
On the other side, the Dell 7773 I was eyeing for personal use is a seventeen-incher that runs on a plain 65W.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#66Why stop at mobile phones? Is there a reason laptops need so many different connectors? I am willing to bet many random connectors are just planned obsolescence or a secondary revenue stream for producers. Also, let's take this further. Any reason laptop displays can't internally have a rather standardised connector? We are throwing away perfectly good displays on broken laptops. What if I could buy a $20 adaptor and…
If we’d introduced this 20 years ago, think about how much e-waste we could have avoided. Also think about your screen would look at analog signal 1280x1024, because that would likely be the limit of the standard connector chosen at the time.
Ehhh, we had DVI in 1999. That gave us slightly-better-than 1080p@60hz over a single link and slightly-better-than 1440p@60hz over a dual link.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#67Didn't the EU force phone makers to standardize on USB a couple of decades ago? It was an absolute nightmare before that with every brand having completely different connector, voltage etc. I'm not sure how Apple got (and are getting) around this.
eh no. that was like 2 years ago not decades.
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Well, at least one reason for different connectors is the fact that USB-C cannot support more than 100W(20V at 5amps). But I agree that literally every single laptop on the market that's below 100W should just use USB-C for charging.
5A is a huge amount of current. For anything. We're talking microwave oven or a couple of desktops. And FWIW, my laptop charger is 2.25A output. There is plenty of room within a 5A envelope for higher current, faster charging battery tech of the future.
No idea why you’re being down-voted. There is a fundamental reason why most supplies will prefer to up voltage rather than current to meet power demand and it’s summarised succinctly as I^2*R
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#69There's a lot to not like about this. I'm going to go under the assumption that USB-C is the standard here.
1. Companies will be forced into paying licensing fees. While not expensive, it's essentially a forced tax on companies so that they get an assigned vendor ID.
2.The language of the directive doesn't give any clarity of upgrading. What happens when the USB standard is updated to a different plug, as it was from A -> C? Will manufacturers now be forced to bundle an adapter for an undisclosed amount of time until there's enough adoption. Would updating even be allowed in this case?
3. What happens when a superior and incompatible standard is released by a completely different entity? Will companies not be allowed to adopt this standard because of the EU requirement? This feels like a directive that will stifle competition.
Re: EU: Call to introduce common charger for all mobile phones
#70Awesome.
I've already started doing my own move to all things USB-C by making a custom made board [1] (which is also for sale [2]). I have so far converted 10 devices at home and gotten rid of their bulky bricks.
[1]: https://blog.oxplot.com/usb-pd-standalone-sink-controller/
[2]: https://www.tindie.com/products/oxplot/stusb4500-compact-bre...