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Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by skrebbel »

gempir wrote: post #93

I personally hope DDG is going to namechange soon. I don't hate their name, but if you present the user with a choice of - Google - DuckDuckGo - Yandex Why would he click the "silly" option besides humor. It's a bad brand name IMO

It's also not very well targeted at global reach. I mean, I assume it's a reference to something in some language / locale? Or, is the humor just super absurdist, i.e. they might've called it ShoeShoeEat and it would've been equally "humorous"?

Assuming the first, it simply means they never imagined being used by people other than (I guess) Americans. Which is unfortunate, but forgiveable.

It's also a terrible finger twister on the keyboard. I wish they swapped duck.co and duckduckgo.com so I could search on duck.co and find dev info on the fingertwister.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by mrweasel »

neuronic wrote: post #101
gempir wrote: post #93

I personally hope DDG is going to namechange soon. I don't hate their name, but if you present the user with a choice of - Google - DuckDuckGo - Yandex Why would he click the "silly" option besides humor. It's a bad brand name IMO

Yes, whenever I bring it up to friends the response is ridicule.

I never meet anyone who cared about the name, either they want to know how the results compare to Google, or that they love the little duck in the logo. It's not even technical people who ask about the quality of results.

The name simply never comes up as an issue.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by column »

fxtentacle wrote: post #95
therealmarv wrote: post #10

It's somehow funny to see that Bing search results are so successful when packaged with privacy in mind into DuckDuckGo. I don't like bing search results, especially for Europe. They are just bad for many local things. The only other search engine beside Google which is interesting and surprising for me is maybe Yandex. It's also not as good as Google in (most of) Europe but it's interesting to see that many things a…

I suffer through DDG to avoid Google, but it's not pretty. Especially for terms with ambiguous meaning, DDG just performs way worse than Google. For example, the tensorflow terminology for reducing dimensionality is "squeeze" and the scipy Gaussian distributing is called "normal". A DDG query for "python squeeze normal" shows me stuff about the animal. Google correctly infers that I want programming advice. I also re…

A DDG query for "python squeeze normal" shows me (in order):

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/numpy-squeeze-in-python/

https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-1.15.1/reference/generated/...

https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/generated/numpy.s...

https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-1.13.0/reference/generated/...

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/numpy/numpy_squeeze.htm

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34990652/why-do-we-need-...

https://www.tensorflow.org/api_docs/python/tf/squeeze

https://pytorch.org/docs/stable/torch.html

https://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/generated/scipy.s...

https://www.programcreek.com/python/example/13561/numpy.sque...

Litterally nothing on the first results about the animal.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by [deleted] »

skrebbel wrote: post #111
gempir wrote: post #93

I personally hope DDG is going to namechange soon. I don't hate their name, but if you present the user with a choice of - Google - DuckDuckGo - Yandex Why would he click the "silly" option besides humor. It's a bad brand name IMO

It's also not very well targeted at global reach. I mean, I assume it's a reference to something in some language / locale? Or, is the humor just super absurdist, i.e. they might've called it ShoeShoeEat and it would've been equally "humorous"? Assuming the first, it simply means they never imagined being used by people other than (I guess) Americans. Which is unfortunate, but forgiveable. It's also a terrible finger…

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Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by mackrevinack »

rapnie wrote: post #100
gempir wrote: post #93

I personally hope DDG is going to namechange soon. I don't hate their name, but if you present the user with a choice of - Google - DuckDuckGo - Yandex Why would he click the "silly" option besides humor. It's a bad brand name IMO

I think the bigger issue is the use in common language as a verb. People say "Why don't you just google it?" and you go to Google to do so. I sometimes say "You should duckduck the info" (or use a single duck) if I have time to explain what I mean. Though, writing this, I guess people will become familiar with that term too if DDG gains enough traction.

it would be good to move away from using the search provider name as the verb and just use something more generic like "search it" or "look it up". there are so many acceptable search engines around these days anyway and it the most popular is going to change every decade it will be just annoying to have to learn a different verb each time

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by mackrevinack »

gempir wrote: post #93

I personally hope DDG is going to namechange soon. I don't hate their name, but if you present the user with a choice of - Google - DuckDuckGo - Yandex Why would he click the "silly" option besides humor. It's a bad brand name IMO

Google is a fairly silly name for a search engine as well but they seem to be doing ok for themselves

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by dessant »

toadi wrote: post #90
Marsymars wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's somehow funny to see that Bing search results are so successful when packaged with privacy in mind into DuckDuckGo. I'm kind of ambivalent about the privacy of DDG vs Bing (maybe I shouldn't be, but since I use DDG anyway, I haven't done the research) - I simply prefer the UI of DDG over Bing. > I don't like bing search results, especially for Europe. They are just bad for many local things. I wish Google was…

I live in Thailand and always get the Thai links first. Hate it because can't read Thai.

I'm in a similar situation, so I wrote a small extension that adds a new Google Search provider to the browser with US locale.

https://github.com/dessant/search-google-us

You could also search by visiting Google using this URL: https://www.google.com?gl=us&hl=en&gws_rd=cr

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by franga2000 »

nfoz wrote: post #97
franga2000 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as they don't alter the search results to give those links an advantage, I have no problem with them using affiliate links. It makes them money to absolutely no loss to me, right?

IMO there is a privacy loss to you. Amazon should not get to know what search engine you use.

That's fair, but the Referrer header already does that. It can be blocked, true, but either way this is just a single literal bit of data - I don't mind, but I see how someone might.

An argument could also be made, that this is beneficial to me, as if Amazon finds a lot of traffic from DDG, they might be more inclined to buy ad space with them, giving better funding to a service I like.

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by afiori »

fxtentacle wrote: post #95
therealmarv wrote: post #10

It's somehow funny to see that Bing search results are so successful when packaged with privacy in mind into DuckDuckGo. I don't like bing search results, especially for Europe. They are just bad for many local things. The only other search engine beside Google which is interesting and surprising for me is maybe Yandex. It's also not as good as Google in (most of) Europe but it's interesting to see that many things a…

I suffer through DDG to avoid Google, but it's not pretty. Especially for terms with ambiguous meaning, DDG just performs way worse than Google. For example, the tensorflow terminology for reducing dimensionality is "squeeze" and the scipy Gaussian distributing is called "normal". A DDG query for "python squeeze normal" shows me stuff about the animal. Google correctly infers that I want programming advice. I also re…

I have a different problem. When searching for stackoverflow style answers DDG almost always shows years old questions that no longer apply

Re: DuckDuckGo Is Now a Default Search Engine Option on Android in the EU

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Post by dantondwa »

I can't recommend DDG to friends in Europe until they fix their quick actions and translate them in other languages. It's not acceptable that to look for the weather in Rome I have to write "weather Rome" because "meteo Roma" doesn't bring the quick action up. Also, the local results are very bad, unfortunately.
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