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I had the same thoughts: even if I like Google Cloud a lot (I use it extensively at work), I don’t feel it’s safe for me to use it at home, since I don’t want to risk having my entire google account locked due to “suspicious activity”, whatever that might mean. In fact, I recently shut down a personal App Engine service I had been using for myself for a few years just because of this paranoia. The service was not doi…
I ordered a phone from Google that's been lost in delivery. I have Gmail/documents/photos/music... Should I do a charge-back? Sue them in small claims court? I should never have done business with them.
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Why not allow people to set a cap that disables everything set to that billing method once it's been reached? That seems to be the use case that people are saying is missing from cloud offerings.
Yeah after I posted I realized that once you hit your cap, that’s it you are done. Still, I bet there is a lot of companies that might be more upset with the provider shutting everything down even if they had set up a cap.
Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run
#213I have used it for work-related reasons and indeed the service is quite nice. But I don't use Google Cloud Run for personal projects for two reasons: - No way of limiting the expenses AFAIK. I don't want the possibility of having a huge bill on my name that I cannot pay. This unfortunately applies to other clouds. - The risk of being locked out. For many, many reasons (including the above), you can get locked out of…
> I cannot have a $100k bill to pay, it'd destroy everything I have. Welcome to US healthcare. Happens daily! :)
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You can set up alerts if you exceed a budget, and you can program a response to turn off billing on a project. Google has a guide for doing exactly what you want. It's not a particularly clean fix, but it is fairly easy (copy paste) and can be done. It also allows for fine grain control eg you could kill an expensive backend process but keep the fronted running. You can also rate limit some APIs. https://cloud.google…
Is this not typical for...literally every use case? No one has an unlimited budget.
Or if the rise in costs is something you can mitigate on your end - such as a bad deployment - you might want time to respond yourself, rather than your site going offline.
More generally, few site reliability engineers are looking to add extra ways for the site to be taken offline.
Of course, if you're large enough to be in those situations, your round-the-clock operations staff will be monitoring the billing situation as carefully as they monitor page load times and error rates and database load so an unexpected bill will be very unlikely.
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I’ve heard about Google correlating these accounts (through billing methods, contact methods, access patterns) and banning them together when one infringes on something. I’m not sure it’s the protection you think it is.
Yes they do. If you want to bypass these rules, just make a ton of accounts and wait for a couple months and the use those accounts with whatever credit card you have (keep in mind that you should get another card from your bank because google can tell when your card is a generated one like privacy.com)
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You can set up alerts if you exceed a budget, and you can program a response to turn off billing on a project. Google has a guide for doing exactly what you want. It's not a particularly clean fix, but it is fairly easy (copy paste) and can be done. It also allows for fine grain control eg you could kill an expensive backend process but keep the fronted running. You can also rate limit some APIs. https://cloud.google…
Is this not typical for...literally every use case? No one has an unlimited budget.
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These stories are everywhere. A couple months ago, it hit an associate of mine pretty hard, he moved a small python monitoring and statistics application off a laptop in the office to AWS. A couple weeks later he came back and discovered that it had burned up a few thousand $'s in storage and transfer fees for what normally was a couple hundred MBs of data a day being passed around and a some database updates. Since…
Not sure what happened to your associate but this sounds way, way out there. I run a fairly resource intensive SaaS on AWS (lots of background jobs generating data) and we barely go over $600 a month. People should not be scared of by these anecdotes, however true they may be. It’s perfectly possible to run a very cost effective business on AWS.
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It's pretty complicated to do that on every services, imagine for any service they would have to call an API to get the $$ remaining , compute before scaling / creation if you have enough ect ...
If you wanted to be that precise, sure. But something like an hourly ‘calculate what I owe’ and compare it to a cap is not a big stretch of the imagination, and would suffice for many use cases.
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"2 requests/minute on average to your site" is a bad assumption for a relatively unpopular side project. More importantly, with those hypothetical numbers, you'd stay well within the free tier for compute.
A request is not a visit. Each visit might have a up to a hundred requests (or even more when showing live data and caching a PWA on first visit for example). That would translate to one user per hour or two which even unpopular side projects can get. But you're right about the free tier of course.
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https://scaleway.com prices their base compute very cheap [0]. They have got DCs in AMS and CDG, but unfortunately, I've not got to use them since their DCs are a bit far from customers. [0] €2.99 for 2vCPU, 2GB RAM, 200Mbits/s bandwidth.
75GB object storage free??? Am I reading this correctly or am I stupid?