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Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by sweeneyrod »

chispamed wrote: post #172
jsjohnst wrote: post #92

As an illustrative of pricing: If your deployment can run in 256MB of RAM w/ 1 vCPU, handles an average request in under 250ms, transfers 200kb or less per request on average, and you get 2 requests/minute on average to your site: The cost is around $2/month USD, which I feel is a more likely scenario for a side project vs the “pennies a month” the OP claims.

I have gone serverless for a Vue frontend app I deliver with Cloudflare Workers Sites and with a DigitalOcean S3 Space serving all images. However I'm still very reluctant to use Google Cloud Computing or any similar Azure/AWS solutions for its backend because it just seems pretty expensive to me. I can get a vServer with 48 Gb RAM, 10 vCPUs and a 800 SSD with a 1000 Mbit/s connection and unlimited traffic for 20€ a…

> I can get a vServer with 48 Gb RAM, 10 vCPUs and a 800 SSD with a 1000 Mbit/s connection and unlimited traffic for 20€ a month and run my MariaDB and Redis database on the same machine as my other containers.

Where are you getting all that at that price?!

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by tamrix »

fearface wrote: post #121
franciscop wrote: post #105

I have used it for work-related reasons and indeed the service is quite nice. But I don't use Google Cloud Run for personal projects for two reasons: - No way of limiting the expenses AFAIK. I don't want the possibility of having a huge bill on my name that I cannot pay. This unfortunately applies to other clouds. - The risk of being locked out. For many, many reasons (including the above), you can get locked out of…

Why not just make another Google Account just for this project? It’s what I do since year, basically for every customer I work, I create a new account and even share the credentials with the customer (if he wants it).

It's against the ToS to create another account to circumvate a ban.

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by sweeneyrod »

city41 wrote: post #174

I’m just starting to explore cheap hosting for a web app and my initial digging suggests shared php hosting (with MySQL) is promising. It seems much cheaper than ruby, node, etc. Can anyone comment if my initial hunches are correct?

If you can save $10/month by using PHP rather than Ruby (which seems optimistic) and value your time at $10/hour (which seems pessimistic) then writing PHP instead Ruby only has to take one hour per month more (or the equivalent in pain) to not be worth it.

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by unexaminedlife »

franciscop wrote: post #105

I have used it for work-related reasons and indeed the service is quite nice. But I don't use Google Cloud Run for personal projects for two reasons: - No way of limiting the expenses AFAIK. I don't want the possibility of having a huge bill on my name that I cannot pay. This unfortunately applies to other clouds. - The risk of being locked out. For many, many reasons (including the above), you can get locked out of…

I just did some math on their calculator: https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/

I think some folks may be overestimating their ability to put a dent in Google's infrastructure.

  1 CPU
  2GB memory
  80 concurrent requests per container instance
  1000ms execution time per request
  5kb outbound network bandwidth per request
  100 million requests per month
$120.19 per month

What if we bump it up to 100kb per request? In my experience only initial requests end up being enormous, especially in single page apps. But to be fair some folks may not have time to optimize. That still only brings the monthly bill to $1,071.48

Then again that second estimate probably isn't relevant since I typically host my static data on a CDN.

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by tuesday20 »

ignoramous wrote: post #113
capableweb wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It goes up of course. Nothing's for free. Not sure why you write "of course" and "nothing's for free". If you use dedicated hosting with something like Hetzner, "suddenly hit a big traffic" doesn't automatically mean more costs for you. The website might get slower, or even crash, but your pricing will still be the same as it was before.

https://scaleway.com prices their base compute very cheap [0]. They have got DCs in AMS and CDG, but unfortunately, I've not got to use them since their DCs are a bit far from customers. [0] €2.99 for 2vCPU, 2GB RAM, 200Mbits/s bandwidth.

75GB object storage free??? Am I reading this correctly or am I stupid?

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by tmpz22 »

alasdair_ wrote: post #142

I wont use this for the simple reason that I bought into the Google Appengine stack in the past and it really bit me for several reasons: They force-upgraded the java version. The problem was their their own libraries didn’t work with the new version and we had to rewrite a ton of code. It ended up being insanely expensive at scale. We were totally locked-in to their system and the way it did things. This would be fi…

These products remind me of that one colleague who doesn't understand why people don't like them. Uh, you've systematically fucked them over for years without even realizing it, and when you get caught you never even apologize, thats why they don't like you.

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by breakingcups »

chispamed wrote: post #172
jsjohnst wrote: post #92

As an illustrative of pricing: If your deployment can run in 256MB of RAM w/ 1 vCPU, handles an average request in under 250ms, transfers 200kb or less per request on average, and you get 2 requests/minute on average to your site: The cost is around $2/month USD, which I feel is a more likely scenario for a side project vs the “pennies a month” the OP claims.

I have gone serverless for a Vue frontend app I deliver with Cloudflare Workers Sites and with a DigitalOcean S3 Space serving all images. However I'm still very reluctant to use Google Cloud Computing or any similar Azure/AWS solutions for its backend because it just seems pretty expensive to me. I can get a vServer with 48 Gb RAM, 10 vCPUs and a 800 SSD with a 1000 Mbit/s connection and unlimited traffic for 20€ a…

Where can you find a server like that for €20/month?

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by itake »

misterhtmlcss wrote: post #175
cheriot wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope GCP/AWS add a max spend ability. Until then it's complexity of pricing model vs time spent on OS and database management. To each their own.

It's why I'm on digital ocean. Cheap, but good quality service that's comparable to the big boys and it's capped. $5/month is perfect for me

I use DO too, but they have deleted a lot of customer data.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225665

https://blog.checklyhq.com/why-the-recent-digital-ocean-kill...

Keep your stuff backed up.

Re: Deploy your side-projects at scale for basically nothing – Google Cloud Run

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Post by city41 »

sweeneyrod wrote: post #183
city41 wrote: post #174

I’m just starting to explore cheap hosting for a web app and my initial digging suggests shared php hosting (with MySQL) is promising. It seems much cheaper than ruby, node, etc. Can anyone comment if my initial hunches are correct?

If you can save $10/month by using PHP rather than Ruby (which seems optimistic) and value your time at $10/hour (which seems pessimistic) then writing PHP instead Ruby only has to take one hour per month more (or the equivalent in pain) to not be worth it.

I get what you’re saying and appreciate the perspective. I’m not convinced rails or perhaps Sinatra are really any nicer than say Laravel. But I personally am not a ruby fan.

In this particular case the front end is very rich and the majority of the effort, and for the back end I just need a little bit of crud.

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