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Pickering area -- 40 km away from Toronto. Nonetheless, training exercise that erroneously issued a provide-wide alert.
It's strange that this article says "Toronto area" - it was sent to the entire province of Ontario.
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Not even that, the deaths and injuries are immediate for drivers. Canada implemented this in the worst way possible so that any alert gets the highest alert setting possible (Presidential: what would normally be reserved for an imminent attack) - bypassing silence, do not disturb, and any volume or device setting. So Imagine a truck driver at 3 am being suddenly startled by the blaring alert and then scrambling to sh…
The Canadian government is pretty much uniformly incompetent as an institution. I honestly can't think of a single thing in my lifetime they haven't bungled.
I wonder how many people are killed per alert? These alerts (usually AMBER alerts) are sent to millions of people, accompanied by a loud and startling siren. You can imagine all sorts of "one-in-a-million" events. The surgeon woken in the middle of the night, who can't get back to sleep and makes a mistake the next day. The startled roofer falling off a ladder. Etc.
I wonder how many people are killed per alert? These alerts (usually AMBER alerts) are sent to millions of people, accompanied by a loud and startling siren. You can imagine all sorts of "one-in-a-million" events. The surgeon woken in the middle of the night, who can't get back to sleep and makes a mistake the next day. The startled roofer falling off a ladder. Etc.
Not even that, the deaths and injuries are immediate for drivers. Canada implemented this in the worst way possible so that any alert gets the highest alert setting possible (Presidential: what would normally be reserved for an imminent attack) - bypassing silence, do not disturb, and any volume or device setting. So Imagine a truck driver at 3 am being suddenly startled by the blaring alert and then scrambling to sh…
I think that these things are annoying, and since they are controlled at the state/provincial/territorial/major metro level, there’s going to be a bell curve of competence. (With the bottom being Hawaii where a single operator with a defective control panel was able to send a incoming ballistic missile attack warning)
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Not even that, the deaths and injuries are immediate for drivers. Canada implemented this in the worst way possible so that any alert gets the highest alert setting possible (Presidential: what would normally be reserved for an imminent attack) - bypassing silence, do not disturb, and any volume or device setting. So Imagine a truck driver at 3 am being suddenly startled by the blaring alert and then scrambling to sh…
In the US, I assumed most people turn AMBER alerts off on their phones. Some people seem to get mad about people disabling them but some people get mad at just about everything.
I wonder how many people are killed per alert? These alerts (usually AMBER alerts) are sent to millions of people, accompanied by a loud and startling siren. You can imagine all sorts of "one-in-a-million" events. The surgeon woken in the middle of the night, who can't get back to sleep and makes a mistake the next day. The startled roofer falling off a ladder. Etc.
Not even that, the deaths and injuries are immediate for drivers. Canada implemented this in the worst way possible so that any alert gets the highest alert setting possible (Presidential: what would normally be reserved for an imminent attack) - bypassing silence, do not disturb, and any volume or device setting. So Imagine a truck driver at 3 am being suddenly startled by the blaring alert and then scrambling to sh…
Not that I was looking to move, but Canada is no longer on my list of countries I'd be willing to live in.
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>wish I could fully disable these alerts Can't you? On my iPhone, I can. I'm not sure I would--although I have one category of alert disabled, but I can.
On my Android I've turned off everything in the emergency alerts section but they still go through. I think that you aren't able to disable presidential alerts on Android, which happens to be the only alert level Ontario uses.
> Presidential alert is default on and cannot be turned off.
https://cs.android.com/android/_/android/platform/packages/a...
> CMAS Presidential must be always on (See 3GPP TS 22.268 Section 6.2) regardless [of the] user's preference
https://cs.android.com/android/_/android/platform/packages/a...
> A CMAS-capable User Interface (UI) shall support the ability for the user to opt-out of only the Imminent Threat and Child Abduction Emergency Warning Notifications. When a Presidential Warning Notification is received, it is always presented to the user whenever Cell Broadcast Service via GSM/UMTS or warning message delivery via E-UTRAN is enabled on the UE.
https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/122200_122299/122268/10...
Seems like no one working in the Canadian government has heard about The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
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On my Android I've turned off everything in the emergency alerts section but they still go through. I think that you aren't able to disable presidential alerts on Android, which happens to be the only alert level Ontario uses.
That may be true on the iPhone in the US as well. Apple support doesn't say anything about it AFAIK but I did find an article suggesting you can't turn Presidential alerts off. (Though I don't think I've ever seen one.)
Pickering area -- 40 km away from Toronto. Nonetheless, training exercise that erroneously issued a provide-wide alert.
It's strange that this article says "Toronto area" - it was sent to the entire province of Ontario.