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Lyft’s algorithm is trying to block people with names like ‘Dick’ and ‘Cummings’

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It is probably best known as part of nazi ideology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan This is no the only use, of course, but that doesn't matter. Good luck being a Hindu and displaying a swastika.

Or being ethnically Aryan :/

> Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

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> "Fuck" is a distasteful word for an act with near-universal approval. Near-universal approval and near-universal distaste. A curious phenomenon, isn't it?

Everyone shits, but "shit" is still considered a bad word because of its material properties. Fuck, on the other hand, is something everyone loves doing, except when done by force... I guess the reason it's still seen as a bad word rather than a "love word" (besides old religious believes that sex is actually intrinsically bad, which some people might still hold) is that "fuck" is unconsciously associated with forced…

I think the "old religious beliefs" have more to do with it than any connotation of forced sex (at least I have never recognized this in the way people use the word).

"making love" is something partners do as a healthy and (re)productive part of their relationship, "fucking" is what 'animals' do, purely done for pleasure. It is a bad word for the same reason gluttony, excessive alcohol and drugs are a sin. A society where everyone mindlessly chases dopamine from carnal pleasures is less productive, especially when this leads to unrest and violence (and I guess that's where forced sex comes into play).

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Or being ethnically Aryan :/

> Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

Right, it's an ethnic concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_peoples

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Besides the humor of how Lyft's filter flagged traditionally Caucasian names like "Cummings" – in addition to the usual issues with non-Western names, e.g. Pimpong and Poon – I'm fascinated/confused how this made it into production? The user database already exists and was currently being used by the live application. Before deploying this new filter onto the production database, wouldn't you do a dry run to get not…

> traditionally Caucasian names like "Cummings"

It always amazes me when US Americans talk in terms of human races like it's the most normal thing in the world. And no, “Cummings“ is not a “Caucasian name“ (whatever that is supposed to mean), it's an English name. I don't want sound too harsh, it's just that as a Central European with all our recent history, things like this really rub me the wrong way.

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This is a problem not just in profanity filters but also on marketplaces like Etsy. Heaven forbid anyone named Harry Potter wanting to sell on Etsy. They would more likely than not find themselves banned with little recourse.

In this case for 'trademark' reasons, but the problem is the same. Filter for a set of things, and eventually legitimate examples of said thing are going to get caught up in it.

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Why even try to catch “naughty” names. Why do I even need to give Lyft a name in the first place? It just seems like such a made-up problem.

I think you and the driver are supposed to exchange names. This is probably awkward when you name yourself "suck my balls" or something, which people undoubtedly do because people are terrible. The Simpsons figured this out decades ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1EjcWU6sEk

>people are terrible

There are many terrible things in the world. People naming themselves Mike Rotch isn't one of them. Certainly not as "terrible" as denying hundreds of thousands of people a service.

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post #16

Besides the humor of how Lyft's filter flagged traditionally Caucasian names like "Cummings" – in addition to the usual issues with non-Western names, e.g. Pimpong and Poon – I'm fascinated/confused how this made it into production? The user database already exists and was currently being used by the live application. Before deploying this new filter onto the production database, wouldn't you do a dry run to get not…

positives (anyone named "Fuck", ostensibly). This guy would disagree: http://mw.eco.br/ig/prof/ReinhardtAdolfoFuck.htm Along the same lines, https://www.nie.edu.sg/profile/chew-shit-fun

In Austria, we have many people called “Fick“, which literally means “Fuck“.

BTW, isn't it insulting to those people to suggest that their names are insulting?

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I'm not offended by words. I was just talking about other people. Some people are offended by words, some are apparently offended by others being offended.

> I'm not offended by words Then why defend people who are offended by words? That's their problem, not yours. > some are apparently offended by others being offended. O_o

I just thought it was unusual that someone would complain about being offended by the beeps that hide the words that other people are offended by. So I pointed out that they must know how the people they're complaining about feel when they hear those words, since they have to hear something (beeps) that they're offended by.

Those while thing was hypocritical and goofy.

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This is all bullshit anyway. A word is just a word and whenever it insults somebody it's their own problem. I would rather change my actual name to Fuck if I wasn't too lazy to deal with problems like that. I once read a story of a Vietnamese man named Hui. He had to go to the court to protect his right to be named this way in Ukraine where the word is used widely and has only one meaning - a dick.

This is a nonsensical argument. A word has meaning, which is why it is a word and not a sound. If I yell insults at you, you are saying that doesn't mean anything? And if you get insulted, it is your own fault? No, words have meaning based on a common understanding between the person saying the word and the person hearing the word. If I insult you and you understand it, it is me who did the insulting, it is not 'your…

If you yell insults at me, I will be offended. It doesn't matter if the words you use are "fuck off", "f*k off" or even "would you be so kind as to vacate the premises by the violent application of a large phallic-shaped object on your rear end".

The entire discussion here has been about being offended by a word, even though that word is used in a context which is not offensive at all.

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post #168

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Why even try to catch “naughty” names. Why do I even need to give Lyft a name in the first place? It just seems like such a made-up problem.

I think you and the driver are supposed to exchange names. This is probably awkward when you name yourself "suck my balls" or something, which people undoubtedly do because people are terrible. The Simpsons figured this out decades ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1EjcWU6sEk

No, you and the driver are supposed to exchange a keyword to make sure you got into the right car. That keyword happens to be a name by default because it's very... human, I guess, but it does not have to be your name. For taxis, I frequently use two or three random names common in my country.
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