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A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by loso »

jariel wrote: post #160
loso wrote: post #128

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When you hit 40 you start to see in real time how valuable those old songs are. Your friends and other people in your age group hate the new music so they only listen to music from when they were young. All of the commercials play music you thought would never be used in a commercial. Walking through the grocery store or waiting in an elevator you start to bop your head because one of your favorite songs from high sc…

"Your friends and other people in your age group hate the new music so they only listen to music from when they were young." Young people hate a lot of music made these days and listen to older music. It's not just a 'when I was young' thing anymore. There's something very profound that comes from artists who make music, as opposed to a producer who makes some licks, a mediocre singer who belts it out, and a label th…

You will always have some young people who like an older sound. But no, those songs that you think people will hate will be called classics in 10 years time. As a former DJ I have seen that cycle over and over again. When I go to grocery stores I hear mostly 90s music. Most of the commercials I see have 90s or 80s music in it. And when 20 year olds get in their 40s it wil be the same pattern.

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Post by HenryBemis »

chx wrote: post #11
HenryBemis wrote: post #6

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Oh how I totally disagree with you... I thought I'd never move on to listen to "what kids listen to these days" and "most of it is crap". And then a cousin (with similar music taste) pointed me to "Post Rock" genre.. Mogwai (yes from the movie), Bloc Party, Sigur Ros, God is an Astronaut, 65daysofstatic.. I now split my time between good old classic heavy metal (Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden)(anything after 7nth son is j…

> anything after 7nth son is junk imho those are fighting words, my friend. Fear of the Dark and Paschendale are just two examples that came after Seventh Son and are rightly played often by the band at their concerts and immensely popular.

heh, talking about dogma (I just did), and my favourite IM singer is Paul, NOT Bruce. Although Bruce has a better/richer voice, I like the punk-tone of Paul's voice. I have this "fight" with my mates everyone we go to see IM live :)

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by erpellan »

peteretep wrote: post #185
wiseleo wrote: post #184

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I like the concept. I believe the value of back catalogs will only increase. As they increasingly corner the market, there should be a corresponding value increase in stock. What's not to like?

The thing not to like is the current stock price, because everything that you like about it will have already been analysed in deep detail by the market, and priced in. By investing in a public company, you are saying “I think the market is wrong about the potential for this company”, and I’m curious to know why you think that having read this public piece, you think the company is currently undervalued? The shares a…

When I invest it’s usually because I think “I like this dividend yield.”

I can buy, forget and auto-reinvest the dividends. Stock price swings are not particularly interesting if you never plan to sell.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by CathedralBorrow »

peteretep wrote: post #185
wiseleo wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the concept. I believe the value of back catalogs will only increase. As they increasingly corner the market, there should be a corresponding value increase in stock. What's not to like?

The thing not to like is the current stock price, because everything that you like about it will have already been analysed in deep detail by the market, and priced in. By investing in a public company, you are saying “I think the market is wrong about the potential for this company”, and I’m curious to know why you think that having read this public piece, you think the company is currently undervalued? The shares a…

That's why I ignore coins I find on the street. If they were real someone would have picked them up already.

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Post by vincentmarle »

peteretep wrote: post #174
wiseleo wrote: post #156

It will be industry-wide game over when they grab Max Martin and Lukasz Gottwald https://nypost.com/2015/10/04/your-favorite-song-on-the-radi... I think the goal is to launch the next ASCAP/BMI/SESAC and basically charge astronomical rates for songs people want to hear. Songwriters will love it and artists will have no choice. This is pretty much a confirmation: "Along with owning a bigger chunk of the publishing mar…

> It's a public company. I might want to buy some stock in it when I can. Why, what’s the information advantage you have over the market?

Replace “market” with “herd” and you already have an advantage over them. If EMH was really a thing, then everyone would stop investing period and index funds would rule the world. Clearly they’re not.

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Post by jeremysmyth »

CathedralBorrow wrote: post #194
peteretep wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing not to like is the current stock price, because everything that you like about it will have already been analysed in deep detail by the market, and priced in. By investing in a public company, you are saying “I think the market is wrong about the potential for this company”, and I’m curious to know why you think that having read this public piece, you think the company is currently undervalued? The shares a…

That's why I ignore coins I find on the street. If they were real someone would have picked them up already.

If the market was aware of them they'd have been picked up already.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by peteretep »

CathedralBorrow wrote: post #194
peteretep wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing not to like is the current stock price, because everything that you like about it will have already been analysed in deep detail by the market, and priced in. By investing in a public company, you are saying “I think the market is wrong about the potential for this company”, and I’m curious to know why you think that having read this public piece, you think the company is currently undervalued? The shares a…

That's why I ignore coins I find on the street. If they were real someone would have picked them up already.

If you see a coin on a street aggressively patrolled by hundreds of people whose fulltime job is searching for dropped coins, you’re better off assuming it’s not a coin

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by peteretep »

vincentmarle wrote: post #196
peteretep wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a public company. I might want to buy some stock in it when I can. Why, what’s the information advantage you have over the market?

Replace “market” with “herd” and you already have an advantage over them. If EMH was really a thing, then everyone would stop investing period and index funds would rule the world. Clearly they’re not.

> and index funds would rule the world. Clearly they’re not

https://qz.com/1623418/index-funds-now-account-for-half-the-...

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by peteretep »

erpellan wrote: post #193
peteretep wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing not to like is the current stock price, because everything that you like about it will have already been analysed in deep detail by the market, and priced in. By investing in a public company, you are saying “I think the market is wrong about the potential for this company”, and I’m curious to know why you think that having read this public piece, you think the company is currently undervalued? The shares a…

When I invest it’s usually because I think “I like this dividend yield.” I can buy, forget and auto-reinvest the dividends. Stock price swings are not particularly interesting if you never plan to sell.

Do you think the market ignores the yield when pricing assets?
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