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A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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I invested in this interesting investment trust back in February last year when it was featured the investors chronical and late last year when they had an offer for subscription at 100.

I look at it as an alternate bond like investment that is not corelated with traditional bonds - target yield is 5% I think

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Not a bad idea. Finding avenues to rent-seek seems to be the winning strategy, especially with all the cash floating around looking for returns.

It's actually kind of brilliant. Mercuriadis et al are getting some of the rights to well-known intellectual property through the presumably underpaid, behind-the-scenes contributors. His competitors say he's paying too much, but is that just because they've been paying too little? I was biased against the guy when I started the article, but if the status quo ante was other execs paying pennies to songwriters for the…

Exactly back in the 50's 60's performers got ripped off left right and centre.

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post #34

Not a bad idea. Finding avenues to rent-seek seems to be the winning strategy, especially with all the cash floating around looking for returns.

Michael Jackson owned the Beatles catalog which made him a lot of money.

Which the Beatles lost due to some super scummy tax dodge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet when you see a car commercial they use an old song. You’re not accounting for the value of nostalgia and cultural significance.

In many cases, old songs are used precisely because they are cheaper to license.

Not really its why TV shows have to be careful with the budget for licences - though this can work very well "sinner Man" as used in an episode of Person of interest.

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This new moment of marketization is interesting to observe from the sidelines. I'm a musician but I've never gotten paid for making music and don't want to be. This way, songwriting and playing music can remain something I do purely for the intrinsic joy of it. And it's not really so long ago that, if you wanted music in your house, you had to play it yourself. I have nothing against recorded music or professional mu…

Yeah and you know, thank god for that. As a musician I thought I would be interested in reading this article, but I kept finding myself fiddling, doing other things, looking at other tabs, even playing 2048 at one point. I guess I will always be a peasant, because this guy and everything in this article is FUCKING BORING. Why would I do any of that when I can play music anytime I want? I "have" music in a way they never can. If I write one song right now, that's 1/0 = infinity percent more than he's written. I respect this guy about as much as I respect someone who pays for sex.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article he's dedicating marketers to synch rather than mechanicals. I quoted the explanation of all three revenue streams for people like myself who don't automatically know which is which. With Hipgnosis Songs Fund, Mercuriadis bypassed all of them. Songwriters are able to generate revenue from three sources: mechanical royalties (the sale or legal download of a song), performance royalties (paid every time…

For people curious about synch rates, a friend just licensed the music (not performance) to an unknown song for promos for a major streaming production with A listers for $8000 on a two month license. This was with the assistance of an entertainment lawyer. Of course every case is unique.

Sounds like this is all the money being poured into television and film content by Netflix/Amazon/Apple etc. trickling down.

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This doesn't bother me one bit. I think he's making a mistake though. Taylor Swift, Timbaland, and Bruno Mars are all arguably homogenous music made by marketing groups for middle American focus groups. They are endlessly replaceable, rather forgettable, artists and will be lost to history by the 'next big thing' that sounds just like it or very similar in a year or two. It has more in common with pop fashion than or…

This comment is very focused on your point of view of what timeless music is. Plus your examples of who remembers are all artist or groups who were big for a song or two. Middle tier artists. There is a difference as far as staying power between the first set of artist (Swift, Timbaland, Bruno Mars)you used as an example and the second set (Blaque, 3LW, etc).

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post #103

Not a bad idea. Finding avenues to rent-seek seems to be the winning strategy, especially with all the cash floating around looking for returns.

I think pop songs are a depreciating asset since new ones can be pumped out rather quickly like out of a factory.

It's not just than new ones are pumped out, it's that people lose interest and move on. Taylor Swift will do better than someone less popular, but people still listen to "Blank Space" more than "Love Story." Going back further, kids these days are less likely to know the Beatles.
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