A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

The issue there is that new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs and so this way of treating copyright plus no entries to public domain means that old songs will be pushed forward all the time whereas new songs have no incentive at all to emerge. Especially if distribution is consolidated between a few actors.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by lotsofpulp » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 2:58 PM UTC

Not a bad idea. Finding avenues to rent-seek seems to be the winning strategy, especially with all the cash floating around looking for returns.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by HenryBemis » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 3:02 PM UTC

makapuf wrote: post #4

The issue there is that new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs and so this way of treating copyright plus no entries to public domain means that old songs will be pushed forward all the time whereas new songs have no incentive at all to emerge. Especially if distribution is consolidated between a few actors.

Oh how I totally disagree with you... I thought I'd never move on to listen to "what kids listen to these days" and "most of it is crap". And then a cousin (with similar music taste) pointed me to "Post Rock" genre.. Mogwai (yes from the movie), Bloc Party, Sigur Ros, God is an Astronaut, 65daysofstatic..

I now split my time between good old classic heavy metal (Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden)(anything after 7nth son is junk imho), Metallica (up to Justice..), everything Sepultura, basically eveything rock/metal up-to-early-1990.

I get it that for new musicians it's hard to find their place in the world/market, but go start your own cafe/bakery/what-have-you and face competition.

Porter's five forces to the max!

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by electriclove » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 3:03 PM UTC

Would be nice if he bought them to make them free.. this is just another capitalistic play by those who are already wealthy.. great..

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by zozbot234 » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 3:12 PM UTC

I wonder why this guy thinks that the rights to a successful song are an "uncorrelated" asset. Wouldn't strong economic growth mean that people are far more likely to spend money on these things? Especially for 'sync' rights which mostly come up for things like ads, or derivative mass-marketed media (e.g. successful song X ends up in the soundtrack of movie Y)? Just seemed like a weird claim to me.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by corrys » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 3:14 PM UTC

HenryBemis wrote: post #6

makapuf wrote: post #4

The issue there is that new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs and so this way of treating copyright plus no entries to public domain means that old songs will be pushed forward all the time whereas new songs have no incentive at all to emerge. Especially if distribution is consolidated between a few actors.

Oh how I totally disagree with you... I thought I'd never move on to listen to "what kids listen to these days" and "most of it is crap". And then a cousin (with similar music taste) pointed me to "Post Rock" genre.. Mogwai (yes from the movie), Bloc Party, Sigur Ros, God is an Astronaut, 65daysofstatic.. I now split my time between good old classic heavy metal (Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden)(anything after 7nth son is j…

Strange to see Block Party in this list! Also post rock had its time in the late 90s / early 00s. Doubt we can put it in the category “what kids listen to these days”. This category today is more along the lines of Post Malone and Lil Yachty.

Re: A Man Who’s Spending $1B to Own Every Pop Song

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Post by prpl » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 3:17 PM UTC

HenryBemis wrote: post #6

makapuf wrote: post #4

The issue there is that new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs and so this way of treating copyright plus no entries to public domain means that old songs will be pushed forward all the time whereas new songs have no incentive at all to emerge. Especially if distribution is consolidated between a few actors.

Oh how I totally disagree with you... I thought I'd never move on to listen to "what kids listen to these days" and "most of it is crap". And then a cousin (with similar music taste) pointed me to "Post Rock" genre.. Mogwai (yes from the movie), Bloc Party, Sigur Ros, God is an Astronaut, 65daysofstatic.. I now split my time between good old classic heavy metal (Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden)(anything after 7nth son is j…

You might try out Mono, Boris, Pelican, Mastodon, Drive Like Jehu, Hot Snakes.

Maybe Pissed Jeans and Envy, but that might be a bit too punk rock.