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Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by smsm42 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #249
amiga_500 wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“If poor people knew how rich rich people are, there would be riots in the streets”

For a random visualization attempt: "Everyone in this room, stand up. Every second we're going to count a million dollars. If your net worth is less than that amount, sit down." Most people will sit down in a second or two. Some might last ten seconds. A billionaire will still be standing 16 minutes later. Every second, a million dollars ticking away. TWO DAYS later, you're getting to the richest people in the world.…

One day, in your setup, is 86bn (plus change). By Wikipedia data, the richest person is Jeff Bezos with 113bn. So who are the two-day-ers? Poorest of them must have almost 173bn, who are those?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by droithomme »

phy6 wrote: post #267
freepor wrote: post #237

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It’s a 3 hour direct flight which can be a 3 hour trip in a private jet. But I don’t think you get to claim it was for lunch unless you can prove it. Why would someone go so far for lunch?

I didn't know the private island had a landing strip large enough for a private jet!

It doesn't have any runway. You fly into St. Thomas, then take a boat (or submarine as Hawking did) over to the island.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by cotelletta »

preommr wrote: post #256
gautamcgoel wrote: post #23

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Wow. Seth Lloyd is a very well-known name in Quantum Computing. It's pretty shady that he's depositing $50,000 gifts from known sex offenders directly into his personal bank account...

Can't these people just go to facebook and get like a 300k salary for a few years?

They are academics, so likely, no. Notoriously bad at actually accomplishing something with real world constraints, an actual timeline, and customer requirements.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by duaoebg »

mlyle wrote: post #131
throwaway21210 wrote: post #120

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Harvard Professor Mark Newman also has similar shading dealings with Epstein. His own book, SuperCooperators [1], has nearly 3 whole pages dedicated to describing his experiences on Jeffery Epstein's Island, thanking him for all his support and basically sucking up to him by describing his (Epstein's) incredible intelligence. Stephen Hawking even makes an appearance in these stories with a talk about how Epstein rent…

Yah-- Epstein did something nice for Hawking -- unknown if before or after the conviction-- therefore one can reasonably expect that Hawking knew Epstein was raping underage girls on his island and that Hawking participated. /s

I've had women relay their complaints to me about Hawking. Apparently he liked to harass pretty young women by driving his chair into them.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by [deleted] »

gumby wrote: post #75
sxcurry wrote: post #66

1) Negroponte responded: “I know him quite well. The person who is his closest friend is Marvin Minsky, who even visited him in jail. I would take Berlusconi’s money, so why not Jeff.” (By March 2013, Berlusconi, the former Prime Minister of Italy, had been accused of hiring underaged prostitutes and dating underaged girls.) 2)“I’ve also talked to Nicholas [Negroponte] as well who had met him and he also agrees that…

I'm really surprise Marvin visited him in jail. It's not out of character of him (he was really a kind human) but I'm surprised he had that close a relationship. I like Nicholas a lot but some of his remarks do surprise me.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by harry8 »

pastor_elm wrote: post #139
ericfrenkiel wrote: post #24

Epstein didn't kill himself. Video footage "accidentally" deleted and the backup footage also lost due to "technical errors." His death and a cleanup so slovenly and brazenly done in front of the public eye is a mockery of America as a nation of "liberty and justice for all."

occam's razor says you're wrong.

You toss a coin 8 times and are told you get 8 heads, you wanted tails, the person reporting this to you wanted heads on each occasion. By occam's razor is 8 heads a simpler explanation than you were lied to?

One toss, you couldn't really detect much smell. But 8? Does it stink?

Any one of these things, camera footage x2, cell mate, suicide watch removal, plea deal, guards asleep x2, association with the current president, Bill Clinton, actual royalty, just for starters... and we can keep going with these coincidences.

Any one, fine, happens. Any three, ok, weird, but not totally outside expectation. But we're kind of beyond that. It just stinks. If it's all just a massive coincidence that all these independent things "just happened" that needs support because it seems the assumption that all those events are independent is shaky, at best. Shaky by occam's razor heuristic.

0.9^8 is less than 50%

So it should be looked at closely on principle. With or without support from occam's razor.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

smsm42 wrote: post #291
FireBeyond wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a random visualization attempt: "Everyone in this room, stand up. Every second we're going to count a million dollars. If your net worth is less than that amount, sit down." Most people will sit down in a second or two. Some might last ten seconds. A billionaire will still be standing 16 minutes later. Every second, a million dollars ticking away. TWO DAYS later, you're getting to the richest people in the world.…

One day, in your setup, is 86bn (plus change). By Wikipedia data, the richest person is Jeff Bezos with 113bn. So who are the two-day-ers? Poorest of them must have almost 173bn, who are those?

Putin and Gaddafi (before his death) have both been estimated to have 200 Billion in wealth.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by speedplane »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #297
smsm42 wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One day, in your setup, is 86bn (plus change). By Wikipedia data, the richest person is Jeff Bezos with 113bn. So who are the two-day-ers? Poorest of them must have almost 173bn, who are those?

Putin and Gaddafi (before his death) have both been estimated to have 200 Billion in wealth.

> Putin and Gaddafi (before his death) have both been estimated to have 200 Billion in wealth.

This seems pretty unlikely. Putin has certainly done well being a corrupt leader, and probably has control over $200B, but I doubt he has holdings that reach anywhere near that level.

Gaddafi having that much money is a bit of a joke. It would require him having many multiples of the entire country's GDP in his own personal account. Perhaps theoretically possible, but hard to believe without better proof.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by hanniabu »

awb wrote: post #287
droithomme wrote: post #209

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Yeah he got $60,000 as an unreported funding gift that bypassed normal research funding mechanisms and went into his private bank account and was actually spent on ???, followed by a $125,000 donation that apparently followed the same route in order to "support his sabbatical", and this is on top of the $225,000 that Dr. Lloyd got through official channels from Epstein. The $185,000 made as alleged gifts to MIT but w…

Why did Epstein transfer money to Lloyd though? If Lloyd was taking advantage of Epstein's island, wouldn't one expect money to be flowing from Lloyd to Epstein?

Maybe he connect Epstein with high end clients, some sort of finder fee. Or it could possible be a finder fee for women if you want to make those allegations.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by mratsim »

cotelletta wrote: post #293
preommr wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't these people just go to facebook and get like a 300k salary for a few years?

They are academics, so likely, no. Notoriously bad at actually accomplishing something with real world constraints, an actual timeline, and customer requirements.

While I have a lot of critics for Academia in particular regarding code publication or reproducibility or the chase for the next conference paper, this is completely uncalled for.

Their real world constraint is publish or perish, and they do have a timeline: the next conference. And their requirements does not include usability and maintenance.

Also writing a good paper is a long endeavor, often frustrating, sometimes with politics involved.

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