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I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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post #27

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One way I've heard the role of product manager described as is a "shit umbrella".

This is applied to managers in general: - Good managers are shit umbrellas - Bad managers are shit funnels

beautiful metaphor. anyway, I quasi-agree, though I've become suspicious of managers who claims to be an umbrella protecting their team from the rain. Half the time, they're really just trying to make sure their team doesn't see the forecast and quit.

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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Could you provide examples of that?

Jeffrey Kaplan, in his book "Start Up", would talk about how Microsoft would do this in the days when it was particularly powerful. Think about it this way: You always want to learn about opportunities and potential competitors. The biz dev team may say, hey we should maybe acquire this company, and the product people may say, no this is a good idea but we should copy it. It doesn't have to stem from a sinister inten…

Did you mean "Startup: A Silicon Valley Adventure" by Jerry Kaplan?

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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Hearing many horror stories over backing out at last minute, I wonder why breakup fees and escrow are not more popular in startup world. E.g. if you would like to acquire for $5mln you need to deposit $100k. If you walk out, this is a breakup fee. If startup bails it also have to pay same amount to the acquire.

I've seen million dollar deposits get forfeited, people are insane! It might honestly be a good business model on its own.

Losing a million dollar deposit makes total sense if the alternative is losing more than a million dollars.

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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Hearing many horror stories over backing out at last minute, I wonder why breakup fees and escrow are not more popular in startup world. E.g. if you would like to acquire for $5mln you need to deposit $100k. If you walk out, this is a breakup fee. If startup bails it also have to pay same amount to the acquire.

A company sales can go wrong for many reasons, how do you differentiate between a legitimate reason to not proceed to the sale and a "last minute backing out"? I assume that's what a LOI (which is all that the founder had) is for: it comes before any legally binding agreements and allows both parties to be sure they get what they want without bad surprises.

Usually happens in steps. You provide some info they decide to proceed to next phase. Price get attached then.

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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post #12

Same thing happen to me. Only it was 2 mil instead of 5 and I did not really have to do any due diligence as I was selling my product, not my company. So other then spending some time and paying couple of grand to have lawyer go over the agreements I did not suffer much. But boy, was I disappointed ;(

You lost a few grand?

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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post #38

This is very painful to hear. I've tried selling my main company to 4 different buyers now... every single time we get past the LOI phase, they see all our financials in plain sight, and there's always some stupid hangup/ghosting/sketchiness exactly like in this article. Very disappointing, considering how transparent we are up front sending every financial, and there's no real 'discoveries' later that would change t…

So so sorry to hear this. It reminds me of this post from pg: http://www.paulgraham.com/corpdev.html

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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post #52

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An investment bank?

My lower class upbringing is showing, is that what an investment bank does?

Yes - this is a major function of private equity in general. They even have investment banks and firms that specialize in "buy side" versus "sell side" of the transaction.

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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There's got to be a business in here somewhere. A company that acts as a middleman that sorts through all your financials for you, does all the communicating, drafts all legal paperwork and just gives you quick regular updates through the process. That way you can keep running your company during all of this madness. I wish I knew more about selling and acquiring companies since it seems like a business well worth la…

It can't really work that way. There are diligence firms that provide quality of earnings analysis, compliance analysis, intellectual property audits, etc. But potential buyers always have questions that require input from staff.

The executive team has to be very involved in the process. Their involvement naturally drags management/staff into it.

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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post #17

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Sure, Amazon does it all the time to small startups. They fly you into Seattle, setup a fancy meeting with strategy teams and M&A, make you run through a pitch deck, explain every aspect of your business. They take diligent notes until they fully understand your inner workings, they tell you thanks, you'll hear from us soon. And nothing happens, 6 months later AWS launches your exact product. Founders need to be extr…

Why don't companies go in with something akin to an NDA saying you can't use any of this information to directly compete with us for x years? Seems like this would be standard if it's common practice to steal businesses while feigning interesting in acquisition.

Maybe they do, but they can't afford the litigation. Like "you can beat the rap, but not the ride."

Re: I almost sold Baremetrics for $5M

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post #21
post #17

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Sure, Amazon does it all the time to small startups. They fly you into Seattle, setup a fancy meeting with strategy teams and M&A, make you run through a pitch deck, explain every aspect of your business. They take diligent notes until they fully understand your inner workings, they tell you thanks, you'll hear from us soon. And nothing happens, 6 months later AWS launches your exact product. Founders need to be extr…

This is not an example. This is an explanation of how it could happen. Can you share an actual case? Such as, a startup that went through this.

It would be unlikely that anyone would/could share public details about such a thing given the NDA (and potentially LOI) terms that are signed prior to something like this happening. It happens though.
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