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Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by mrwebmaster »

jacquesm wrote: post #16

The more interesting thing is the distribution of income. I would happily bet that there still is a considerable gap between women on average and men on average and that the total amount taken home by that majority is significantly less than the total amount for the men.

On average, there is no hourly pay gap for unmarried women and men without kids. After they get married, there is an hourly salary gap, and this gap is even larger for married parents. As hours worked per day increase, the hourly pay rate also increases and married men spend much more time at their jobs (on average). Hourly pay also increases as experience increases. Married men with children spend more time at their jobs (vs. married women w/ children, on average), so they accumulate more experience over the years. The gap increases when they get older (on average).

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by arkh »

downerending wrote: post #14
klaudius wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-young-...

I'm seeing a lot of this in my extended family. If society isn't telling you that you have a primary role in creating and supporting a family, and that you're necessary for the future of society itself, it turns out that you need a lot less money to survive, and you have a lot more time on your hands.

When you don't have someone to spend your money to keep up with the Joneses you suddenly need a lot less: less space, less home decoration, less clothes, less going out for food, a smaller ride.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by SolaceQuantum »

virtuous_signal wrote: post #79
cblades wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what inequality you're talking about, given that the US population is right at a 50/50 split between men and women. Then again, I'm not sure how genuine you're being here.

Presumably they are referring to the healthcare and education fields being over 3/4 women. In my opinion, whether such disparities are problematic, and in which fields, is a genuine question.

I was under the impression there is, within those fields, significant concern about the way men are treated. Males who are passionate about early childcare education are often viewed as dangerous by the parents. Same for male nurses.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by naravara »

belorn wrote: post #26
klaudius wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-young-...

I dislike this kind of cheap generalization which only look skin deep and don't even try to find common behavior between genders. Young men spend about an 2 hours on games per day, and the numbers for young women is much lower. Young women however spend about 2 hours more on their phones per day more than men. Something seems very similar here if we look at the two activities together rather then in isolation. I woul…

>Young women however spend about 2 hours more on their phones per day more than men

What does "on their phones" mean? This is like saying they spend time "reading books." There are good books and bad books. There are edifying and educational books and pulpy trash books. Just saying "books" says nothing about the productivity.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by hadesenia »

virtuous_signal wrote: post #79
cblades wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what inequality you're talking about, given that the US population is right at a 50/50 split between men and women. Then again, I'm not sure how genuine you're being here.

Presumably they are referring to the healthcare and education fields being over 3/4 women. In my opinion, whether such disparities are problematic, and in which fields, is a genuine question.

But, even though these fields are female dominated, aren’t the leadership and most management positions in these fields held by men? Glass escalator theory is an interesting concept that some researchers bring up when studying these disparities.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by wayoutthere »

mrwebmaster wrote: post #81
jacquesm wrote: post #16

The more interesting thing is the distribution of income. I would happily bet that there still is a considerable gap between women on average and men on average and that the total amount taken home by that majority is significantly less than the total amount for the men.

On average, there is no hourly pay gap for unmarried women and men without kids. After they get married, there is an hourly salary gap, and this gap is even larger for married parents. As hours worked per day increase, the hourly pay rate also increases and married men spend much more time at their jobs (on average). Hourly pay also increases as experience increases. Married men with children spend more time at their…

This is the same reason I see trotted out by companies looking to defend gender imbalances; but the real issue is that the higher up you go in a profession, the less likely women are to be promoted. Even without kids. And these days in the US, "women with children" only get a few weeks off when they have children before having to return to work. Suggesting the difference in career outcomes is due to this time is ill-informed at best.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by virtuous_signal »

djohnston wrote: post #71
notadoc wrote: post #58

Interesting. Will there be a nationwide push to hire more men to make up for all of this inequality?

There are some legitimate concerns related to having basically only women teaching young children, but the issue seems to predominantly be that men don't want to do it.

This immediately raises several questions: 1) What are the legitimate concerns with only women teaching young children? 2) What is the evidence that men aren't interested in teaching young children? How can it be shown that the effect wasn't caused by discrimination? 3-infinity) Same questions, but with any field dominated by one gender

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by jeffrallen »

cblades wrote: post #67
notadoc wrote: post #58

Interesting. Will there be a nationwide push to hire more men to make up for all of this inequality?

Not sure what inequality you're talking about, given that the US population is right at a 50/50 split between men and women. Then again, I'm not sure how genuine you're being here.

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