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Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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I don't have data to back this up, but it's something I am now going to try to research. However I feel that there is a slight trend away from your traditional payroll job into independent small business careers (youtuber, blogger, streamer, freelancer, etc..). I'm curious how that affects these numbers.

If I had to take a guess I'd say almost not at all. For example, Twitch only has 27,000 streamers with the Partner status, and only a fraction of them make a living off of it. There's enough to be a cultural phenomena but not significantly change the workforce.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

> What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

The article claims:

> ... close to 100% of working-age men used to participate in back in the 1950s. Now that figure is 89%, and had been falling up until 2014. Economists cite multiple reasons: lower demand and wages for unskilled uneducated workers, retiring baby boomers, and an opioid crisis that disproportionately affects men.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

Depressed, committing suicide or just doing nothing. But apparently nobody cares.

Not only does nobody care, but some celebrate it.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

#35

I don't have data to back this up, but it's something I am now going to try to research. However I feel that there is a slight trend away from your traditional payroll job into independent small business careers (youtuber, blogger, streamer, freelancer, etc..). I'm curious how that affects these numbers.

I'm pretty sure self-employed people count towards those numbers, unless they're making hobby-level income.

What's your theory, though? I don't follow what exactly you're getting at? Which gender is supposedly better at those endeavors? Are there a ton of men trying to be successful online entrepreneurs and not making any money so they don't get counted in the workforce stats?

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

>> What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier? Some are living in their parents basement until they're 30 to 40. It has been hypothesized that with the breakdown of families in the US, men are giving up, and that includes efforts to build a stable foundation for their family. See MGTOW but dont read too much, it can be kind of depressing.

Purely anecdotal, but some men I know who haven't started families* are coasting along and are less aggressive to seek career opportunities. Uber, part-time work, etc. Why put your nose to the grindstone if you don't need to provide anymore?

*either by choice or because they don't live up to society's standards (e.g. hypergamy)

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

#37

The more interesting thing is the distribution of income. I would happily bet that there still is a considerable gap between women on average and men on average and that the total amount taken home by that majority is significantly less than the total amount for the men.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less. They're on average more interested in people, so they tend to choose to become nurses, teachers, etc., while men are interested in things and become software developers, engineers, etc. I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

I would assume if someone did gap analysis they would factor that in. It isn't about the wholistic are women making more or less than men. Rather it's the equality of are women who are the same role of men making the same. There shouldn't be a difference there.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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post #3

I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

People have less children then before and are waaay more likely to go back to work after being stay at home temporary.

The stay at home moms might not be that large portion of population.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

>> What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier? Some are living in their parents basement until they're 30 to 40. It has been hypothesized that with the breakdown of families in the US, men are giving up, and that includes efforts to build a stable foundation for their family. See MGTOW but dont read too much, it can be kind of depressing.

Do you think US is moving towards Japan? I.e. a significant population of herbivore men (60%?) that get no benefit from associating with women, losing this motivational signal and dropping out of society?

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

Why does it have to be even? Why does it matter? Equal Outcome != Equality of Opportunity. Unfortunately the two are often conflated in an attempt to imply there is some form of discrimination taking place by people with nefarious motives.

The comment you are replying to does not say it has to be even
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