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VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Re: VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Post by Topgamer7 »

tombert wrote: post #22

You know, people like to crap on Flash (and there are valid reasons to do so), but I really miss how quick you could get a game built with it, while it still felt like "real" programming. With Flash, I felt like a nice "one-stop-shop" in a lot of ways; you could draw your graphics, animate them, and code them, and you could get a simple game made in an hour or two. I haven't tried Unity or really any other dedicated…

Flash was my first programming language from way back when I Was 12-13 in a game programming club when I got to high school. It was a fun, creative way to get introduced to programming. Which I have done non-stop ever since, and now do professionally.

It will always be a cherished toolset to me.

Re: VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Post by pdpi »

Oh gods.

VVVVVV's core mechanic is that you don't so much "jump" as you just flip gravity, and you only get to do so when your feet are firmly on the floor. This leads to some very interesting designs.

The stage "Veni Vidi Vici (Doing Things The Hard Way)" is possibly the evilest level I've ever completed in a video game. Just a tiny little block, trivial to jump over, but the lack of a jump button means you have to... do things the hard way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CtiY5D6HCs

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

Quenty wrote: post #35
azhenley wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flash was great and I haven't found a direct replacement yet (GameMaker Studio 2 is the closest I have found). I pumped out 8 Flash games about a decade ago that generated enough ad revenue to cover all my bills for a few years! I miss how easy it was. Another huge win is how effortless it was to distribute Flash games (they spread like wildfire after I uploaded it to one or two sites).

Have you tried Roblox?

I thought Roblox was a game... is it also a game making platform?

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Post by justsayinghi »

azhenley wrote: post #70
KapKap55 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haxe is just a language. However, there are several graphical frameworks that allow for that. Dicey Dungeons (his newest game) is specifically built off the OpenFL framework which tries to replicate the Flash API.

I always used the Flash WYSISWYG editor for the canvas and graphics, so OpenFL isn't a replacement at all in that respect.

Same here. I remember implememting the game loop using one or two timeline frames.

Re: VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Post by RHSeeger »

jordigh wrote: post #69
RHSeeger wrote: post #59

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> Open source is defined by the OSD To be a bit pedantic, your statement is a slightly ambiguous. They have a good/accurate definition of open source. They don't "define it" in that they can change the definition to mean "and the packaging must be blue" and that becomes part of what open source means.

Yes, OSI is responsible for the OSD, but the term has gotten somewhat "genericised". It's like saying that the Kimberly-Clark company doesn't define what "kleenex" is anymore. Whenever this debates comes up everyone always says, "wait, the term existed before OSI", but no, it really did not. Essentially nobody was saying "open source" before 1998 when OSI and Tim O'Reilly started pushing "open source". https://thebaf…

Not kleenex, no, but open source as a term exists in the same way that escalator does. If the OSI was to change their definition, they would be wrong. The definition has transcended them. I honestly have a hard time understanding how people don't agree with that.

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Post by jordigh »

RHSeeger wrote: post #76
jordigh wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, OSI is responsible for the OSD, but the term has gotten somewhat "genericised". It's like saying that the Kimberly-Clark company doesn't define what "kleenex" is anymore. Whenever this debates comes up everyone always says, "wait, the term existed before OSI", but no, it really did not. Essentially nobody was saying "open source" before 1998 when OSI and Tim O'Reilly started pushing "open source". https://thebaf…

Not kleenex, no, but open source as a term exists in the same way that escalator does. If the OSI was to change their definition, they would be wrong. The definition has transcended them. I honestly have a hard time understanding how people don't agree with that.

OSI got bad legal advice and quickly abandoned the trademark of the term "open source" itself.

https://trademark.trademarkia.com/open-source-75439502.html

Bruce Perens regrets this[1]. But they could have. The term was not generic when they coined it. It really is like "kleenex".

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[1] private communication

Re: VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Post by [deleted] »

tombert wrote: post #22

You know, people like to crap on Flash (and there are valid reasons to do so), but I really miss how quick you could get a game built with it, while it still felt like "real" programming. With Flash, I felt like a nice "one-stop-shop" in a lot of ways; you could draw your graphics, animate them, and code them, and you could get a simple game made in an hour or two. I haven't tried Unity or really any other dedicated…

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Re: VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Post by nurbel »

ddevault wrote: post #119

Ethan Lee worked on this! Ethan Lee is an awesome person. Ethan is probably the single biggest contributor to gaming on Linux, and he's always worked in the background. Thanks Ethan, you rock, and deserve more credit.

indeed, Ethan Lee's portfolio is impressive ! http://www.flibitijibibo.com/index.php?page=Portfolio/Ports

I wouldn't have thought linux games were such a small thing, for a single person to have worked on so many of them

Re: VVVVVV’s source code is now public, 10 year anniversary jam happening now

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Post by woodrowbarlow »

tudelo wrote: post #62
teddyh wrote: post #24

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“ You may not alter or redistribute this software in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation. ” This kind of stuff is generally regarded as non-Open Source.

Why? The source is open to the public?

it's a "look but don't touch" situation. open-source means giving freedom to the users.

there's nothing wrong with source-available, but source-available and open-source are not equivalent.

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