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Re: Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gone by 2020' signs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure in the '70s I read the Earth would be a big ball of ice, but it's OK since if we didn't nuke ourselves the overpopulation will have killed us all off.

I'm pretty sure you didn't: https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-cl... http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-gl... https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11643-climate-myths-t... >A survey of the scientific literature has found that between 1965 and 1979, 44 scientific papers predicted warming, 20 were neutral and just 7 predicted cooling. So while predictions of cooling got m…

> I'm pretty sure you didn't:

I'm pretty sure I did. No amount of quoting political activist sites or popsci journalism sites is going to change what I experienced.

My experience of the 1960s was we would all die in a nuclear holocaust or be drafted and sent to "conventional" war. I didn't even live in a country with mandatory military service, but was subject to the cultural hegemony of one that did.

My experience of the 1970s was we would all die of a nuclear holocaust, freeze to death in the coming ice age, or starve and freeze because we ran out of oil.

My experience of the 1980s was that we would all die in a nuclear holocaust or subsist in a wasteland caused by no ozone layer and acid rain everywhere.

My experience of the 1990s is limited: I had small children and a mortgage. Nothing existed outside of that for me. It's surprising how little you care about nuclear holocaust when you're chronically sleep deprived for months at a time and are concerned about making sure you have food clothing and shelter for a bunch of dependents.

The last 20 years we're doomed by terrorists or maybe the reactionary governments that respond to terrorism, global warming, and possible nuclear holocaust.

I'm not impressed by post-hoc studies with cherry-picked data used to assert a political position. All those publications are going to roast in the coming nuclear holocaust anyway.

Re: Glacier National Park to remove all 'glaciers will be gone by 2020' signs

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Warnings of impending problems serve a real purpose even if they miss the mark. We absolutely want folks thinking about environmental responsibility, and the consequences of their choices. Unfortunately, some of the more doom and gloom predictions can send young people down the wrong path. I remember listening to 10 in 2010 and imagining that I would never make it to 40. Well here we are in 2020, and somewhere along…

How much research has been done into the positive effects of global warming? More rainfall, warmer waters, more tropical climate. It's hard to believe these things might be bad. Has no one done this kind of research before?

If your fridge warms up, you can use it as a hothouse (with some lighting), and freezer as a fridge. This will work and be good. But not for the frozen produce you already have in there.
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