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Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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"Full of himself"? Way too mild an indictment. In the last 24 hours Facebook bought a story in a publication, pretended it wasn’t sponsored, their COO posted it, then when they got caught, they denied knowing anything about it. And what was that ad/story about? Their commitment to stopping disinformation. All the while we've learned that they have utterly sold the company to international electioneers.

You might be interested in thss talk, in case you haven't heard about it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXACRrzLMA

Abstract: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10936-inside_the_fake_like_facto...

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21913440

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Huh, I just want my heads up life display because...why not? Assuming that your heads-up live display contains a public facing camera here's: Why not! I don't like sitting in a bar (or a strip club, or in any other semi-public, or even public dodgy or non-dodgy place) and you hang there with your heads-up live display recording my image. I don't like the fact that it's uploaded to some tech behemoth' server for furth…

Those bars and strip clubs already have plenty of CCTVs, you are being recorded. Police have body cams, cars have dash cams, almost every phone has a camera capable of taking video, the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. A glass cam will probably work out the same way CCTV has: people are worried about the potential for privacy abuse, but in the end these fears don’t come to…

the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high.

OK, good, you understand the origin of the problem. Modern technology has co-opted ordinary people to act as spies for big, powerful data processing organisations, in the process seriously undermining our privacy.

Now, how do we solve it?

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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This strikes me as mainly a lot of malarkey from a person who will happily earn more billions in coming years trough the monetized distraction of a another final generation. But I’m dumbfounded by the private network reference. Zuck sees people trying to circumvent oppressive regimes as some sort of emerging market opportunity? Or does he think you and I would pay to use “FB Private” if they promised to turn off ever…

> This strikes me as mainly a lot of malarkey

Hear hear. "Holy shit, I got rich, I must be smart! It's a new decade, let me write something I think sounds smart and publish it."

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Those bars and strip clubs already have plenty of CCTVs, you are being recorded. Police have body cams, cars have dash cams, almost every phone has a camera capable of taking video, the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. A glass cam will probably work out the same way CCTV has: people are worried about the potential for privacy abuse, but in the end these fears don’t come to…

the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. OK, good, you understand the origin of the problem. Modern technology has co-opted ordinary people to act as spies for big, powerful data processing organisations, in the process seriously undermining our privacy. Now, how do we solve it?

Yes, the cameras are all around, but no, they aren’t spying on you, why should they? Most video just gets deleted unless some event happened, they don’t even archive it.

I guess we could get rid of all the cameras and have everyone walk around with blind folds so they can respect everyone else’s privacy from being seen, but it seems like a net negative in my book.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Those bars and strip clubs already have plenty of CCTVs, you are being recorded. Police have body cams, cars have dash cams, almost every phone has a camera capable of taking video, the chance that you are being recorded if someone wants to is already very high. A glass cam will probably work out the same way CCTV has: people are worried about the potential for privacy abuse, but in the end these fears don’t come to…

Sigh! Where to start? OK, let me give it a shot. Luddites complained about the automated loom as well Now that's a really bad case of whataboutism. I'm not complaining about technological advance. I'm complaining about tech, which is a massive invasion of privacy. Have you ever been lying on a beach and some asshole lets his drone flying around? I don't know about you, but I really don't fancy to be half naked on som…

We have had CCTVs around for the last 30 years, where are the massive privacy violations that you guys predicted 30 years ago?

Very very few people had google glass to begin with, the glass hole term was invented and perpetuated by a bunch of conspiracy theorists, enough to get 3.9 million hits on google (for Tech Luddism is as old as technology itself. It isn’t surprising that you don’t want this, that you don’t want other people to have this, we’ve gone down this road before and we will go down it again.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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when did an industry decentralize historically? the tendency is towards centralization. The only thing that can counter centralization is ubiquitous encryption

Almost always: industries or activities which were once only viable in a single (or small number) of instances, but which, given increases in net total capabilities, but no inherent efficiencies of scale, require replicated instances rather than a centrally-controlled monopoly. Even here, if there's a space for centralised control, it's possible that either some single entity will gain effective unitary control or im…

good points, but as they say, the internet doesn't weigh anything

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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I think Zuck is too full of himself. People often get confused that their success means that they are wise, and that we should listen to them. Should we as well follow the thought leadership of drug cartels and the Saudi monarchs?

If this post had been written by an anonymous dev, it would not be read as "full of himself". I think the "full of himself" subtext comes from the readers, not the writer.

This doesn't stop the possibility that Zuck actually is full of himself.

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It's a schizophrenic hive mind cult. I think I see some patterns where topics that used to get downvoted get upvotes instead, and I hope that's because others have decided that they don't like what this says about the community, and so they upvote them on general principle. (The Cynic worries that someone's astroturfing budget ran out).

It seems schizophrenic because there really isn't a hivemind. Rather, there are various mutually antagonistic groups who differ in their beliefs in what the "hivemind" represents (as opposed to "authentic" Hacker News culture,) based on their suspicions about what sinister conspiracy is behind moderation and comments contrary to their point of view. Almost no one here seems to trust that people who disagree with them…

I have noticed this trend as well. That is why I read HN with dead comments enabled, and vouch+upvote a dead comment whenever I think it adds to the discussion (e.g. brings new info or brings up a point or angle that I haven't seen in that thread and makes me stop and think about it for a second or two), regardless of whether or not I agree with that comment.

Sometimes good comments end up forgotten, just because someone got to them first, who disagrees with them and is not intellectually mature enough to handle that.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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>When people say they care about privacy, most of the time they mean they care about anonymity, as in privacy from people who knows them personally. They don't want their internet search history to be known by friends or family or coworkers, but they probably have no qualm if it's just data being sent to large corporate service providers. >That's why people would continue to trade personal info for conveniences for t…

And soon if you don't want to be priced out of the market for important things like insurance, you'll be forced to go along with the invasive tech: https://onezero.medium.com/if-you-want-cheap-car-insurance-y... How do the ethics line up for an insurance company analyzing data from your wearables and seeing a data point that indicates a significant increase in the chance of a heart attack? Do they tell you and pay fo…

In the US, insurance companies are required to provide you with insurance, and the insurance must cost only a certain percentage more than insurance for the healthiest (youngest) people. This is effectively a subsidy from people not likely to need healthcare (young) to people likely to need healthcare (old). Aka Medicare or nationalized healthcare in other countries.

This website has a nice table showing the adjustment factors.

https://www.valuepenguin.com/how-age-affects-health-insuranc...

https://www.cms.gov/CCIIO/Programs-and-Initiatives/Premium-S...

NJ has a nice pdf explaining age rating factors, showing that early 20s is the benchmark, and even though people in 50s and 60s use much more than 3x the healthcare people in early 20s do, the premium is capped at 3x of those in early 20s.

https://www.state.nj.us/dobi/division_insurance/ihcseh/ihcra...

As an aside, when people complain in the US that the ACA law increased their healthcare costs, what they are complaining about is having to pay for other people’s healthcare. Other than increase supply of healthcare (doctors, medicines, etc), there is no solution to bringing costs down.

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