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Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by godelski »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #111
cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #52

>"at some point in the 2020s, we will get breakthrough augmented reality glasses that will redefine our relationship with technology." Constant video surveillance, direct-to-eyes on-glass advertising, targeted advertising beamed on every approved spot, interests profiling via retina movements/focus and God knows what else will undoubtedly come about if AR glasses become "cool" and ubiquitous like mobile phones. Maybe…

Huh, I just want my heads up life display because...why not? Maybe I won’t trust Facebook to give it to me, but if the tech becomes good enough, I’m definitely going to embrace it. Is it really a dystopian future? We’ve adjusted to the telegraph, camera, telephone, radio, TV, cell phone, smart phone and...why are AR glasses going to be the tech to bring society down?

> why are AR glasses going to be the tech to bring society down?

The people that are against it are more of the position that it isn't the technology, but those that control it. As techies it is easy to see all the benefits and not think of the downsides. We are a niche group after all, but that is easy to forget (especially if you live in SV). As techies we use ad blockers and have tracking blockers. But as we've seen with this wave of tech, our data is valuable and highly sought after. There are campaign after campaign to make us believe that it isn't worth much while the largest companies in the world thrive on it and the most dystopian societies embrace it and quote Goebbels.

Every technology has benefits and drawbacks. The issue is can we mitigate the drawbacks while being able to take advantage of the technology? With forethought this is certainty and historically true (though historically it has been because we reigned technology in). But when we have companies offering to do social credit (not just China btw) and literally comparing themselves to Black Mirror and saying they'll do that, but in a good way? I for one am ready to pump the breaks a bit and be more cautious as we take this turn. It isn't Luddite mentality, but more that we should resolve issues with security and the control of technology as we move forward. The current top comment is mentioning decentralized systems, homomorphic encryption, mesh network, etc. It isn't anti-tech, but maybe we should focus on privacy first before we give away something that people have had all throughout history and the lack of has been showing to cause social problems.

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Post by taurath »

Cookingboy wrote: post #13
jonstewart wrote: post #3

I think antitrust enforcement and privacy legislation will be important in the next decade.

I honestly don't think privacy legislation would make much headway, simply for the reason that vast majority of people outside of the HackerNews crowd don't care about it. When people say they care about privacy, most of the time they mean they care about anonymity, as in privacy from people who knows them personally. They don't want their internet search history to be known by friends or family or coworkers, but the…

It’s making headway right now, in the form of CCPA and GDPR. CCPA sets it up so masses of people can have a simple way to not only opt out of data collection but also delete data.

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Post by dannyw »

What sort of censorship is going on in the comments?

If you look at the Twitter responses to any famous person's comment, you can see how polarising it tends to be.

Everyone there is kissing Zuckerberg's ass, for the lack of a better expression (sorry). What's going on there?

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Post by jotm »

rapnie wrote: post #148
cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #52

>"at some point in the 2020s, we will get breakthrough augmented reality glasses that will redefine our relationship with technology." Constant video surveillance, direct-to-eyes on-glass advertising, targeted advertising beamed on every approved spot, interests profiling via retina movements/focus and God knows what else will undoubtedly come about if AR glasses become "cool" and ubiquitous like mobile phones. Maybe…

Ah, you mean this future: Keiichi Matsuda http://hyper-reality.co/ (or https://youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs )

Jesus, I can barely manage Reddit, Imgur and HN... that stuff looks right out of a nightmare.

But it does seem like the most likely human conclusion to schedule/task/todo/interests lists.

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Post by nikolay »

bitexploder wrote: post #160
nikolay wrote: post #154

I think Zuck is too full of himself. People often get confused that their success means that they are wise, and that we should listen to them. Should we as well follow the thought leadership of drug cartels and the Saudi monarchs?

I did have a hard time taking any of what he wrote seriously. It was not thought provoking for me and I felt it wasn’t deep or interesting. It’s interesting in the sense that it is useful to know where FB may be headed, but when I think of Facebook all I see is another advertising company looking for more ways to put ads in front of captive eyeballs.

One thing I can't understand is why Facebook is still around. But, at the same time, Twitter is still around, too. I guess people got tired switching platforms.

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Post by meowface »

cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #52

>"at some point in the 2020s, we will get breakthrough augmented reality glasses that will redefine our relationship with technology." Constant video surveillance, direct-to-eyes on-glass advertising, targeted advertising beamed on every approved spot, interests profiling via retina movements/focus and God knows what else will undoubtedly come about if AR glasses become "cool" and ubiquitous like mobile phones. Maybe…

As long as it isn't an advertising company (like Google or Facebook) producing it, I'd definitely try it. Hopefully Valve will make a good one.

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Post by bitexploder »

artemisyna wrote: post #95

The number of people in this thread that apparently know the secret, nefarious intentions that Zuckerberg truly has is... Well, not surprising, given that this is the internet and Hacker News. :)

Zuckerberg has a history of being intellectually lazy and making choices that are a net negative for society. There is no secret to the nefariousness. It is right out in the open. He is not a good guy and his response to the overflowing racism and bad faith political content on FB is a giant meh. Twitter showed real leadership. It is Facebooks turn.

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Post by quelltext »

mlurp wrote: post #158
Thorrez wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook makes money. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative spends money. Microsoft makes money. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation spends money. It's a bit strange to compare Mark Zuckerberg's money making organization to Bill Gate's money spending organization.

I don't have any love for Microsoft, but they at least have a handful of objectively useful products that probably make the world a little better. Pretty much all the research I've heard about social media indicates that it makes the world worse. So I think it is relevant.

That's interesting. I just don't think there has been any research into holistically evaluating social networks. AFAIK studies mostly focus on small parts often with the premise to find something negative (e.g. effect of seeing other feeds with success stories).

Obviously a lot of people do in fact derive pleasure and some other benefits or they wouldn't keep using it.

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Post by golemiprague »

slg wrote: post #21

>I don't think private companies should be making so many important decisions that touch on fundamental democratic values... As long as our governments are seen as legitimate, rules established through a democratic process could add more legitimacy and trust than rules defined by companies alone. This is a big chicken and egg problem. Mark wants the government to set the rules but what happens when Facebook doesn't m…

At least people are elected, I don't remember electing anybody in facebook and I don't want facebook to decide for me what is true and what is not, certainly when I know most of them politically lean in a very obvious way.

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

root_axis wrote: post #156
jedberg wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah. Like that would ever happen. I have a friend who refuses to use Facebook. About twice a year I remember to send her updates. Then when I see her I have to go over all the updates everyone else already saw on Facebook. I literally pull out my phone and show her my feed. It’s really frustrating and inefficient. I only do it because she’s a really good friend.

> It’s really frustrating and inefficient. I only do it because she’s a really good friend. Yeesh. I'm glad my friends don't regard me this way. IMHO, your comment is a perfect example of why one should quit Facebook.

They said they are willing to put effort in for their friend. What is wrong with that?
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