Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
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Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#2Any internal correspondence can become public information in a disclosure proces.
~ first rule of corporate communications
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#3Geez.
> "Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn't," says one employee to another, who responds, "No."
> Peter DeFazio, [D-Oregon], called newly released documents "incredibly damning"
That's hard to argue with. You'd like to think this kind of thing would... leak. Who said conspiracies involving hundreds of people are impossible?
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#4Oh, no. People thinking thoughts and expressing them. Oh, my!
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#5> The company official said the language used and sentiments expressed in these communications "are inconsistent with Boeing values, and the company is taking appropriate action in response."
Do you think this means:
a) Change the environment that fosters those kinds of messages?
-or-
b) Punish those who wrote those messages?
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#6Geez. > "Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn't," says one employee to another, who responds, "No." > Peter DeFazio, [D-Oregon], called newly released documents "incredibly damning" That's hard to argue with. You'd like to think this kind of thing would... leak. Who said conspiracies involving hundreds of people are impossible?
Blow your whistle all you want but until something catastrophic happens, the whistleblowers would turn out the way the whistleblowers for the 737ng airframe cracking came out: fired and then ignored.
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#7> The company official said the language used and sentiments expressed in these communications "are inconsistent with Boeing values, and the company is taking appropriate action in response." Do you think this means: a) Change the environment that fosters those kinds of messages? -or- b) Punish those who wrote those messages?
Boeing is saying the language used and sentiments expressed are bad.
They're not saying that releasing a plane that employees were sounding safety alarms are about is bad.
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#8> The company official said the language used and sentiments expressed in these communications "are inconsistent with Boeing values, and the company is taking appropriate action in response." Do you think this means: a) Change the environment that fosters those kinds of messages? -or- b) Punish those who wrote those messages?
Why not both?
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#9Any internal correspondence can become public information in a disclosure proces. ~ first rule of corporate communications
Yup. Talk as much crap as you want in person, but what goes in email and web messages and pull-requests and code comments must be immaculate.
Re: Boeing employees mocked FAA in internal messages before 737 Max disasters
#10Geez. > "Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn't," says one employee to another, who responds, "No." > Peter DeFazio, [D-Oregon], called newly released documents "incredibly damning" That's hard to argue with. You'd like to think this kind of thing would... leak. Who said conspiracies involving hundreds of people are impossible?
How many people in the government knew about the NSA spying on citizens before Snowden finally spilled the info? That was a massive effort involving many (thousands?) of people. Then when Snowden reveals it, his life is destroyed and he’s forced to live in exile. Sends a very strong warning to any other potential do-gooders considering telling the truth.