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For suicide prevention, try raising the minimum wage, research suggests

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Re: For suicide prevention, try raising the minimum wage, research suggests

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Post by emptybits »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #2

I wonder what would happen to the suicide rate with medicare for all, and creating a max-wage that is (avg of contractors + employees * 150), or something similar, w/ additional 'bonus' multipliers for increasing # of U.S. hired. UBI would also probably help. As a freelancer I've had some really slim months and depression hits hard when money is tight. There's a very direct correlation between income security, insecu…

Re/ medicare for all ... Canada has universal health care yet a very similar suicide rate to the USA.[1] Canada doesn't have a livable minimum wage either. Each province sets its own. There is talk of UBI experiments.

[1] https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2011/02/us-vs-can...

Re: For suicide prevention, try raising the minimum wage, research suggests

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Post by codingslave »

seibelj wrote: post #15
codingslave wrote: post #12

Really doubt this. Instead I would look into the connection between anti depressants/anti psychotics and suicide. There's research of strong connections, but immunity is claimed by the drug companies, "because they were already depressed/mentally unhealthy when put on the drugs". Mental health professionals and managers at large drug companies need to start going to jail for over-prescribing psychiatric drugs. The ne…

SSRIs saved my life, I don't like such wild claims. Don't be afraid of psychiatric drugs if you are hurting.

Are you still on them?

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

crooked-v wrote: post #3

As the old saying goes: Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski. And you never see an unhappy person riding a jet ski.

This misses the point. There is no one "money" in our psychology.

Food money is not the same as rent money and is not the same as money allotted for a fancy holiday.

House safety, food safety, personal safety are what humans worried about for thousands of years before money even existed.

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Post by antoineMoPa »

degenerate wrote: post #18

Does anyone have access to the paper? Raising the minimum wage means less jobs will be available, as employers cut costs and perform layoffs. My assumption is the paper neglects to factors this into their analysis, but if they do, I'd love to read it. edit: paper shared below!

Do you have links to articles to backup your assumption?

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Post by Frost1x »

mnowicki wrote: post #9
crooked-v wrote: post #3

As the old saying goes: Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski. And you never see an unhappy person riding a jet ski.

I have my own little saying that I always say in response to that saying: Lack of money can definitely cause unhappiness though You don't need to look further than Maslow's hierarchy of needs to see why, when you don't have enough money to reliably fulfill some of the most fundamental needs like shelter and food, it's going to severely hinder your self actualization. Forget about moving on to the more psychological h…

This is the part people fail to recognize: in our society, money is an abstraction that provides necessities and wants. If you cant provide necessities, then of course you're unhappy. Many people can't and most everyone cuts corners and makes sacrifices to meet needs.

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Post by seibelj »

codingslave wrote: post #22
seibelj wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SSRIs saved my life, I don't like such wild claims. Don't be afraid of psychiatric drugs if you are hurting.

Are you still on them?

8 years and counting, same dose, 10mg lexapro / day

Re: For suicide prevention, try raising the minimum wage, research suggests

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Post by fennecfoxen »

keeganjw wrote: post #17
cartercole wrote: post #11

The minimum wage should be 0 - sincerely any good economist

The minimum wage should be livable - sincerely any good person

> The minimum wage should be livable - sincerely any good person

Also unemployment should never happen, and if we simply declare how the economy should works, it will magically reorganize itself in a way that makes it so, and which doesn't do serious harm to anybody, and doesn't cripple our futures. And you are a monster for daring to entertain the notion that achieving goodness in the world is any more complicated than this, and you deserve to be shunned and hated.

Re: For suicide prevention, try raising the minimum wage, research suggests

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Post by tempsy »

degenerate wrote: post #18

Does anyone have access to the paper? Raising the minimum wage means less jobs will be available, as employers cut costs and perform layoffs. My assumption is the paper neglects to factors this into their analysis, but if they do, I'd love to read it. edit: paper shared below!

please read any study on cities that have substantially raised min wage in recent years (like Seattle) and understand how wrong you are about there being "fewer jobs" as a result before making such ridiculous statements
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