What's a good cloudless setup? I've got a couple zwave devices, and have been looking into OpenHab. Win10 compatibility would be a bonus, as well as the ability to run my own OpenCV video analysis and voice recognition stacks...
Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
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Re: Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
#52What's a good cloudless setup? I've got a couple zwave devices, and have been looking into OpenHab. Win10 compatibility would be a bonus, as well as the ability to run my own OpenCV video analysis and voice recognition stacks...
Ubiquiti’s offerings can all run 100% locally. I have my entire setup using PoE so each only needs a single cable.
Re: Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
These kind of scenarios can happen with workers in government offices, archives and medical institutions as well. And yet the paper documents are not E2E encrypted. Maybe... just maybe... technology is not really what should be the core issue here? But we should perhaps look at our policies and legislation? Adding proper liability there will make technology come by itself. The magic of free market doesn't seem to be…
The easiest way to keep someone out is to lock the door. You can create penalties, punishments, hire security guards to watch the door. But the most efficient and effective way is just a lock.
That's absolutely not true. Most doors are trivial to pick and as easy to break down.
The main, and usually only, real reason for the lock on the door is to serve as a physical symbol which establishes a particular legal status of the property behind the doors, with associated consequences for unlawful entry. The legal apparatus - penalties, punishments - is what deters crime. Lock is an XML tag made of matter.
(The additional, secondary role of a lock is being a trivial inconvenience. Not enough to deter a thief determined to rob your place, but enough for a thief determined to rob a place to skip yours and pick a different one.)
Re: Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
#54At least the homeowner has a choice to upload their video to ring. Street-facing doorbell cameras on public sidewalks are in my opinion the worse problem. Pedestrians didn't opt-in. Operators of these cameras (both the buyer and the vendor) should be subject to the same legal obligations as other data collectors.
build a fence/wall/hedges.
Re: Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
#55At least the homeowner has a choice to upload their video to ring. Street-facing doorbell cameras on public sidewalks are in my opinion the worse problem. Pedestrians didn't opt-in. Operators of these cameras (both the buyer and the vendor) should be subject to the same legal obligations as other data collectors.
My neighbor, across the street, has a Ring camera aimed directly at my house, since that is where their front door faces. What is my recourse for preventing my private property from being recorded?
Hedgerows :)
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#56How is this even possible?
Question is more like "why wouldn't this be possible"
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#57I was always skeptical of cloud-based camera solutions due to privacy & bandwidth concerns, but now that those concerns are being proven true and reported in mainstream outlets I can’t imagine any reason to purchase them now. Long-term prospects for Ring can’t be looking good.
Upcoming /s-
It would really suck if someone could watch my front door. Like, they might know when my package arrives?
Or what if someone checked my naked footage?
/S
I really don't care. Should I care?
Re: Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
The easiest way to keep someone out is to lock the door. You can create penalties, punishments, hire security guards to watch the door. But the most efficient and effective way is just a lock.
That's absolutely not true. Most doors are trivial to pick and as easy to break down. The main, and usually only, real reason for the lock on the door is to serve as a physical symbol which establishes a particular legal status of the property behind the doors, with associated consequences for unlawful entry. The legal apparatus - penalties, punishments - is what deters crime. Lock is an XML tag made of matter. (The…
You made their point. Accessing an unsecured file and accessing an encrypted secured file with a "lock pick" are two completely different offenses in the eye of the employee when deciding to commit the violation.
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#59How is this even possible?
Well, people who are unaware, or uncaring of the fallout, decided to install peep holes in their homes, with the implicit belif that no creep would be so vile as to actully look in. Now we have a quarter billion of those holes installed. Neat huh?
But peep holes are one-way, and the manufacture does not have the ability to remotely view the peep-hole.
Re: Ring fired employees for watching customer videos
#60At least the homeowner has a choice to upload their video to ring. Street-facing doorbell cameras on public sidewalks are in my opinion the worse problem. Pedestrians didn't opt-in. Operators of these cameras (both the buyer and the vendor) should be subject to the same legal obligations as other data collectors.
My neighbor, across the street, has a Ring camera aimed directly at my house, since that is where their front door faces. What is my recourse for preventing my private property from being recorded?
> What is my recourse for preventing my private property from being recorded?
Either put up a visual barrier or move.
This sort of thing is why I consider products like Ring to be terrible and highly antisocial. I would avoid even going into a neighborhood that had many of these installed, let alone live in one.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that the prevalence of these devices in a neighborhood is a very strong indicator that the neighborhood is sketchy -- either it has a lot of crime, or it has a lot of very paranoid people.