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Apple AirPods: iPhone accessory or the next big thing?

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Re: Apple AirPods: iPhone accessory or the next big thing?

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Post by C1sc0cat »

toasterlovin wrote: post #648
C1sc0cat wrote: post #622

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People don't "need" to spend $700 on a phone a moto g is good enough

People also don’t need automatic transmissions, or heated car seats, or rib eye steaks, or remodeled kitchens. But most people happily spend extra money for nice things and experiences. The world will make a lot more sense once you internalize this.

But a 1000$ iPhone is not that much better than a < $200 Motorola G , this is from some one who is considering a single port USB hub just to isolate a USB DAC from the.

Re: Apple AirPods: iPhone accessory or the next big thing?

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Post by yoz-y »

isoskeles wrote: post #650
yoz-y wrote: post #593

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Straight from the basket of pretentious people who think they know what Steve Jobs would have wanted. They don't. Even Steve from year Y would not know what Steve from year Y+1 would want.

Like I said, personal taste, but I definitely took her opinion of it more seriously given her job is to sell fashionable clothes to fashionable people, and throw in some confirmation bias because I don't like AirPods. I'm not even sure what standard anyone here could use to claim that AirPods (or anything) are cool . Apple products are a status symbol, and sure they have potential to be cool, but glorifying bluetooth…

I wouldn’t say they are cool either. But I remember the time when landlines without wires were “cool”. Nobody thought putting the cord back was a good idea.

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Post by chiefalchemist »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #610
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And on a long term, more profitable probably. We won’t see Spotify disappearing for a while.

Spotify rents music that it itself rents from 3 companies that own most of the music. Why would those 3 companies not just raise their rents if Spotify starts making a decent profit? Spotify has been around since 2006 and just eked out a tiny profit last year. Unless they plan on owning music themselves, I don’t see why the music owners wouldn’t try to capture most of the profit.

Or. Flip that over. What happens to the music owners if one of their primary distributors goes under?

Re: Apple AirPods: iPhone accessory or the next big thing?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #673
lotsofpulp wrote: post #610

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Spotify rents music that it itself rents from 3 companies that own most of the music. Why would those 3 companies not just raise their rents if Spotify starts making a decent profit? Spotify has been around since 2006 and just eked out a tiny profit last year. Unless they plan on owning music themselves, I don’t see why the music owners wouldn’t try to capture most of the profit.

Or. Flip that over. What happens to the music owners if one of their primary distributors goes under?

As long as Apple, Google, and Amazon are willing to forgo margins on music, not much.

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Post by dkonofalski »

Fnoord wrote: post #343
dkonofalski wrote: post #325

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>It didn't even have 3G. You couldn't use MMS. It lacked a ton of other basic features, such as custom software. None of these things, in any way, take away from how simple the first iPhone was to use. Once again, you missed the point completely .

It was limited in its usage (terrible speed while 3G was widely available, limited applications while Symbian had these, could not update via repositories which my Nokia N-series could, could not even use a comm feature like MMS). Apple got away with it because of their iPod fame, and that the UI was a decent capacitive touch-based one which nobody else managed to do.

I love that you continue to double down on your responses that keep, repeatedly, missing the point.

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Post by Fnoord »

dkonofalski wrote: post #675
Fnoord wrote: post #343

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It was limited in its usage (terrible speed while 3G was widely available, limited applications while Symbian had these, could not update via repositories which my Nokia N-series could, could not even use a comm feature like MMS). Apple got away with it because of their iPod fame, and that the UI was a decent capacitive touch-based one which nobody else managed to do.

I love that you continue to double down on your responses that keep, repeatedly, missing the point.

I love that you keep saying I miss the point, without providing substance why I do. We clearly disagree, repeatedly, as you'd put it. What you do is, repeatedly, waving away my arguments as irrelevant, by ignoring them and saying I "miss the point". Like that is going to convince me?

FWIW, I never used the original iPhone for a long period of time, but I did use the iPod Touch, and I did have usability issues with it (not in hindsight). Something simple as blocking ads, for example, it could not do without jailbreaking. I call that a design issue. That Google does such, is to be expected as it is their main source of income. Apple? Not so much. Multitasking was also something to forget about.

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Post by alfonsodev »

robotresearcher wrote: post #657
sneakernets wrote: post #271

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They've always named things this way. It was once cool to have stuff like "WF-100MX3" because it reflected the kitsch of the space age.

This is the company that made ‘Walkman’ and ‘PlayStation’. They sometimes use terrific names.

VAIO name/logo was genius, when I learned the VA form a wave represeting the analogical world and IO part is the digital world, I was like ...wow!

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Post by toasterlovin »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #671
toasterlovin wrote: post #648

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People also don’t need automatic transmissions, or heated car seats, or rib eye steaks, or remodeled kitchens. But most people happily spend extra money for nice things and experiences. The world will make a lot more sense once you internalize this.

But a 1000$ iPhone is not that much better than a < $200 Motorola G , this is from some one who is considering a single port USB hub just to isolate a USB DAC from the.

The processor is way faster. And the camera is probably way better (and still not anywhere near good enough, FWIW). Maybe you just don’t care about those features?

Re: Apple AirPods: iPhone accessory or the next big thing?

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Post by filoleg »

jakemal wrote: post #467
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Used them for a year on my old Galaxy S8+, no issues whatsoever. In fact, they worked so well, they made me consider a forage into other apple once again, after not using any for over 5 years. A lot of my friends with Androids use airpods as well, and they vastly seem to prefer them, considering that a good number of them went through a few other truly wireless in-ear headphones before settling on airpods.

What features are missing when using Android? I'm going to switch from Android to iPhone when the next generation comes out but was thinking about getting airpods before I get an iPhone. I was curious on what features require the iPhone. I think I am mostly interested in the auto pause when taking them out of your ear and the environment-aware noise cancelation

Imo, none of the missing features were crucial or dealbreakers. The ones off the top of my head:

1. Initial pairing by simply opening the case instead of doing it through bluetooth settings (only done once anyways). 2. To check the battery, you need to install a separate app. 3. Activating Siri through a button press on airpods. 4. Single airpod listening mode. 5. Automatic ear detection (according to the article I read, cannot remember whether that was the case back when I actually used it).

As for noise canceling controls and such, you might have to do some googling, because I only tested Android with original airpods, before pro version was available. But I have a few friends who bought pros for their Android phones specifically for noise canceling, so I assume it works fine.

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Post by filoleg »

swozey wrote: post #647
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Actual specs don’t mean much with phones, I learned. Somehow my old Galaxy S8+, that had specs crushing iPhones on paper, after just a few months of use, would be way choppier and slower to use than an iPhone 7, which was both older and had way worse specs. And mind you, i am not the kind of person who installs tons of random apps and runs them in the background all the time.

That seems odd, you reset it after encountering that? I still have an S8 in my drawer but upgraded to the S10 when it came out last year and I honestly can barely tell the difference in their performance (I don't really mobile game so no idea there). I was actually really disappointed that it didn't feel like I'd just upgraded to a new model Corvette but felt like I got a car wash, which is how I'm sure all my phone…

Yep, I tried full reset without restoring from backup. After a few months, it got back to the choppy and sloppy level of performance again, not even mentioning battery lasting a bit less than a day. Which was a dealbreaker to me, since dealing with battery anxiety is not fun. My current phone easily lasts me 1.5 days without charging, so even with very heavy usage, I am never worried that it won't last me through a full day.
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