Azure has an edge over AWS at big companies, Goldman Sachs survey says

I would assume it’s due to a lot of the banks running windows and having large AD rollouts means it’s a bit of a gateway to the rest of their cloud services.

You have to use Azure ADFS for things like office 365/teams, so would make sense for people to keep all their eggs in one basket.

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Post by Daishiman » Thu, Jan 09, 2020, 6:55 AM UTC

MS has established business relationships with large corps to a much greater degree than Amazon. They're already entrenched as nobody's moving away from Windows desktops or Office anytime soon, so the upsell to cloud for them is trivial.

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Post by moksly » Thu, Jan 09, 2020, 6:56 AM UTC

I work for a Danish municipality with roughly 10,000 employees. I’m not sure if you know, but our public sector has been competing with Estonia at being the most digitised in the world for a decade. We operate an estimated 300-500 different IT-systems, some of them enterprise sized SAP solutions deployed on old IBM mainframes with multiple layers of APIs to make their fronts somewhat web-based (don’t ask). Others are minor time registration systems or automated vacation-payouts. I said estimated because a day-care institution is free (though advices not to) buy it-systems without talking with any part of the centralised organisation.

Microsoft has been one of our better partners in all of this. They aren’t cheap, but they listen to us when we need something. We have a direct line to Seattle, and parts of what we ring up at tickets have made it into the global 365 infrastructure. Stuff like making it easier to hide teams-emails from the company-wide outlook address-book.

More than that though, our tech-team is trained and certified in Microsoft technologies. The combination of in-house staff and a 30+ year long good business relationship makes Azure such an obvious choice for cloud. Some of the co-municipal systems we buy through a joint-owned organisation called KOMBIT operate in AWS (support and operations is handled by private sector companies), and it’s not like we’re religious about not using AWS or something other, but we’d need to build a relationship and retrain staff to do so.

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Post by goatinaboat » Thu, Jan 09, 2020, 7:00 AM UTC

Firstly let me say that AWS and Azure are in many ways equivalent - there’s nothing you could build in one you couldn’t build in the other.

But from the POV of an enterprise AWS requires you to have serious full-time AWS gurus in-house or rely on expensive external consultants. You probably need a whole team just for cost optimisation. Whereas most of what you actually want in Azure can probably be done by your existing Windows guys that you have anyway, its layered services are much more mature and aligned with typical enterprise use cases, especially if you have existing workloads you want to migrate. AWS maybe has the edge for a pure greenfield play but those are rare in the big corporate space.

Google cloud is nowhere, they are not a player in this space at all.

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Post by I_am_tiberius » Thu, Jan 09, 2020, 7:03 AM UTC

antupis wrote: post #4

Is this because of AD and Office integrations?

I guess mainly because of o365.

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Post by auggierose » Thu, Jan 09, 2020, 7:05 AM UTC

I am currently getting into GPU cloud computing, and tried various options. My Azure experience was terrible, I could not even spin up a VM, I would get some exception message (in the Dashboard). Pretty much continues my Windows experience from about 16 years ago when I abandoned it for the Mac.