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Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by paulddraper »

icebraining wrote: post #85
paulddraper wrote: post #73

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Fails all contrast measures abysmally: https://contrast-ratio.com/#%23E1E8ED-on-white And this is despite that fact that the actual "font color" is #14171A with excellent contrast: https://contrast-ratio.com/#%2314171A-on-white But these bizarre characters don't respond the text color and thus utterly unpredictable in their legibility.

The use of the color is quite different from a regular character, so measuring by the same yardstick makes no sense. This is a blob of color, not just some thin lines. > these bizarre characters At least on Twitter.com, they're not characters, they're SVG images.

PNG, but yes.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by htfu »

kick wrote: post #68
htfu wrote: post #65

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How is switch to emoji input -> press search box -> start typing apple -> press apple symbol and so on “just the same” as app ?

You don't have to search. Just hit the apple emoji. If you use it frequently, it'll probably be on the front. If not, it takes two seconds to hit the category it's in and then press it.

Because apple happens to start with an a. Ok fine, specifically for apple.com it's almost the same. But that's not really the point I was arguing.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by icebraining »

paulddraper wrote: post #91
icebraining wrote: post #85

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The use of the color is quite different from a regular character, so measuring by the same yardstick makes no sense. This is a blob of color, not just some thin lines. > these bizarre characters At least on Twitter.com, they're not characters, they're SVG images.

PNG, but yes.

Maybe it differs based on the browser? Shows up as https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f47b.svg to me.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by paulddraper »

icebraining wrote: post #93
paulddraper wrote: post #91

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PNG, but yes.

Maybe it differs based on the browser? Shows up as https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f47b.svg to me.

https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f47b.png ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by lokedhs »

downerending wrote: post #62
ncmncm wrote: post #55

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Search engines happened remarkably late. Nobody understood how easy search engines would be. People thought you would follow links from directory pages linked from your "home page", hence the house symbol still seen in browsers. Yahoo! is a leftover of an attempt at a directory.

Indeed--this is what was meant by "indices". It's kind of like XML. It was never meant to be seen by human eyes, except in a few debugging scenarios. Unfortunately, that intention was ignored, and now we have a usability disaster. (At least in the case of XML, it can just die.)

I agree with what you said about XML. But in its stead we have a lot of JSON which is several respects is even worse.

The worst part of it is that it doesn't have a stable definition for numbers, making it impossible to guarantee you're getting the same value back if you encode and then decode a number. Reliably preserving the data you serialise using it should be a primary feature for an encoding format. JSON can't even do that.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by lokedhs »

Nullabillity wrote: post #66
LadyCailin wrote: post #64

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I have, but I live in Norway, where we have æøå in the standard alphabet. I suspect it’s more common still in Asian countries, because at least in Norwegian, there are standard ascii replacements for all the extra letters, å = aa, ø = oe, æ = ae

Here in Sweden I have never encountered a single legit IDN domain.

www.hörby.se

You probably don't want to remove the dots on that one.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by Avamander »

nisuni wrote: post #18
tialaramex wrote: post #16

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There are a bunch of different human writing systems. All of them are weird because they were invented by humans, most of them are very weird indeed because they were invented by humans a long time ago and then gradually mutated. The Latin system is the one you're using here. It's very popular. Most humans in the integrated tribes are somewhat familiar with it‡. It has twenty six "letters" and then twenty six more "c…

That’s unnecessarily patronizing.

Just like the comments that say "ASCII ought to be enough for everybody"?

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by Avamander »

wongarsu wrote: post #22
billpg wrote: post #8

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If you use Windows, [Logo]+[.]

That's a neat trick. It even has kaomoji and useful symbols ╰( °▽° )╯

This sounds like the modern version of this http://bash.org/?835030 quote.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by samatman »

wongarsu wrote: post #28
DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #15

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Punycode is the joke

Limiting dns names to 26 latin characters and the 10 arabic digits is the joke. From the top of my head I can't come up with a single language other than English that doesn't use additional letters (or at least additional modifiers on some letters). Punycode is the most sane solution to an insane situation.

Swahili, Hawaiian, Italian, that's just off the top of my head, there are many others.

Hawaiian uses ' as a proper letter, granted.

Re: Add '127.0.0.1 xn–9q8h' to /etc/hosts gives you "localghost"

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Post by anon31945710 »

jackewiehose wrote: post #34
iso1210 wrote: post #29

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Imagine if DNS consisted only of Arabic characters. Imagine how grumpy you'd be that you couldn't go to newyork.gov.us for your local government website, and instead had to go to نيويورك instead? Assuming you can't read Arabic, how on earth would you even recognise that address, let alone remember how to type it.

Well, I'd probably had to learn something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_chat_alphabet I always assumed the non-latin-alphabet people know their way around this because they already used the internet before unicode-domains.

That (Arabizi and other romanizations) are in wide use now specifically because the latin alphabet was the de facto standard in the computer world. In hypotheical above, that is not likely the case, and you would have to use actual Arabic script.
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