Not being able to identify Iran is one thing. But it takes a special kind of stupid to think it's in Australia or the Americas. I was going to comment that we don't need yet another article pointing out the stupidity of Americans. I was wrong. This points out either stupidity beyond any comprehension or that a lot of people did not take this seriously. I hope it's the latter. It's embarassing to me to be a part of a society that is this stupid otherwise.
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#82How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.
I'm pretty sure this was just an internet survey that people didn't answer seriously. About 1% of the clicks are in the water and a lot of answers are in North America. I have trouble believing anyone is that ignorant.
Lizardman's constant
https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and...
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#83How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.
Far more alarming is that so many US voted marked The United States as Iran.
I'm curious about the little cluster inside the US around Oklahoma or Kansas
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#84The poll is telling given survey findings of only 36% correct answers on geographical knowledge among high school students:
https://calgeography.sdsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/GeoEduRepor...
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if nationalism vexes you then i challenge you to reflect on your own loyalties/commitments. I agree, but just because the psychological mechanisms that give rise to both humanism and nationalism are related, doesn't mean that we can't make reasonable judgments about which is better than the other, especially when the nationalism is of an ethnic or racial variety.
>doesn't mean that we can't make reasonable judgments about which is better than the other i'm not advocating for reserving judgment. i'm simply saying that being proud of yourself for not being nationalist is pointless and if you want to understand nationalists (to whatever end -- even eradication of nationalism) then study yourself in analogy as a proxy for the other.
Or simply, be self-critical, which is the number one trait disappearing from public conversation, if not for the fact that being self-critical is seen as weakness, perhaps the reason you're reiterating yourself
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#8647% supported the strike? How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? Iran = Bad Man from Iran = Bad Kill Man from Iran = Good???
How about:
Soleimani = Quds leader
Quds = responsible for Iranian military actions outside Iran
Kill person responsible for Iranian military actions outside Iran = Good
Reading the above seems a bit contrived, but I know it pretty much fits for me. I had heard his named before the news broke, but wouldn’t have been able to tell you what he did upon hearing it again. As soon as I discovered he was a Quds general, I had enough information to know that I supported striking him. Granted I was already aware of Iran’s involvement in Iraq over the past few years, and that he had been killed in Iraq.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s akin to asking Iranians, can you point out Missouri [or Texas or Calif] on a map?
maybe they would if the state of Missouri starts bombing Iran.
That seems rather likely, all things considered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteman_Air_Force_Base
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Far more alarming is that so many US voted marked The United States as Iran.
I'm curious about the little cluster inside the US around Oklahoma or Kansas
I think that's just likely the perceived geographic center of the US. Meaning they just were clicking on the US, not a specific area of it.
There's a similar center cluster in Australia.
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#8947% supported the strike? How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? Iran = Bad Man from Iran = Bad Kill Man from Iran = Good???
How about: Soleimani = Quds leader Quds = responsible for Iranian military actions outside Iran Kill person responsible for Iranian military actions outside Iran = Good Reading the above seems a bit contrived, but I know it pretty much fits for me. I had heard his named before the news broke, but wouldn’t have been able to tell you what he did upon hearing it again. As soon as I discovered he was a Quds general, I ha…
That you know who Soleimani is places you as an outlier.
Nobody would know unless told he's from Iran, and even more so that he lead the Quds.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about: Soleimani = Quds leader Quds = responsible for Iranian military actions outside Iran Kill person responsible for Iranian military actions outside Iran = Good Reading the above seems a bit contrived, but I know it pretty much fits for me. I had heard his named before the news broke, but wouldn’t have been able to tell you what he did upon hearing it again. As soon as I discovered he was a Quds general, I ha…
That you know who Soleimani is places you as an outlier. Nobody would know unless told he's from Iran, and even more so that he lead the Quds.
That’s the point, though - I didn’t know who he was when I first heard the name. It took maybe 30 seconds for me to determine he lead Quds, at which point I had enough information to know that I supported his being targeted.