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Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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And yet Twitter is the becoming-heroic war machine of the ordinary citizen, because it and other armaments of information allow a person to independently participate in information warfare on rival states. Just like the capsuleer pod technology found in the lore of the futuristic space setting massively multiplayer online roleplaying game Eve Online. It's safe to conclude that generally Twitter democratizes power.

Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Not at all surprising. Sad, but not surprising. How many voters know who the Secretary of State is? How many voters know who their local congress critter is? I guarantee the numbers are similarly dismal.

I actually regularly forget my local Reps - because every time I check in they've been voting the way I want, so I have very little reason to think about them. I generally know about them for a few weeks before elections and rapidly forget after that. (with the occasional hot button issue making me check in on them, but then my memory lasts only for an hour or so)

I used to feel a lot of guilt about this, but eventually I decided that's the whole point of a representative democracy. Depending on people to be aware and informed on all the issues is extremely likely to fail. Whatever system of govt we want to strive for, it has to build on that reality.

Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.

With any public opinion survey there's going to be a certain amount of "noise" results. You can't _force_ people to give serious answers. But if your methodology is sound (Morning Consult's certainly is) then they will tend to cancel each other out.

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47% supported the strike? How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? Iran = Bad Man from Iran = Bad Kill Man from Iran = Good???

> How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? That is true for just about any political question. The consequences are usually so complex that the average citizen can't possibly be informed well enough on the matter. Just look at what happened with brexit... Mandatory political disclaimer: I'm not saying democracy is wrong, and I wouldn't know how to solve this problem either.

and the most divisive political questions don’t even have objective answers.

Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Everyone who knows how to read and know an approximate location of the middle east will be able to locate it. Not sure what's the point though? Is it to highlight how stupid average American voters are? That's a broad generalization and just a blunt offense. Also how is it an indicator of anything? 99% I Iranians wont be able to locate Wyoming. So what?

It’s not an offense if it’s true. It’s crazy how stupid the general population of the US is. Especially when you leave highly educated coastal social circles.

Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.

I find the whole survey incredibly suspicious. There's no way there were actually multiple people who thought Iran was an ocean.

Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Everyone who knows how to read and know an approximate location of the middle east will be able to locate it. Not sure what's the point though? Is it to highlight how stupid average American voters are? That's a broad generalization and just a blunt offense. Also how is it an indicator of anything? 99% I Iranians wont be able to locate Wyoming. So what?

> Wyoming Wyoming is not an international political entity. I also wouldn't expect americans to reliably locate Montreal, but they damn well better know where Canada is. It's an indicator of the sad state of affairs, that most "voters" (presumably those that voted in the presidential election) cannot locate a country as important as Iran. Are you kidding me that you think someone voting for president should have such…

It's an extravagant view to say the least. Iran is one of a series of major, independent, influential polities that have succeeded one another since 550 BC in the same region with a degree of continuity, with an immense historical impact.

Knowledge of it is being equated with knowing about Missouri or Wyoming, seriously?

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