Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
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Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#2Sadly, the anti-nuclear movement in Germany is very strong. Germany also has a declining Coal industry. So after Fukushima shrewd politicians moved to shutter nuclear plants and return to coal. The worst part? German coal is some of the worst in terms of sulfur and pollutants.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#3I'm not surprised this happened, but it is bitter. Glad to see the failure is being pointed out to the public.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#4Sadly, the anti-nuclear movement in Germany is very strong. Germany also has a declining Coal industry. So after Fukushima shrewd politicians moved to shutter nuclear plants and return to coal. The worst part? German coal is some of the worst in terms of sulfur and pollutants.
I've heard lignite described as "slightly more flammable dirt".
It's an absolutely atrocious energy source.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#5Sadly, the anti-nuclear movement in Germany is very strong. Germany also has a declining Coal industry. So after Fukushima shrewd politicians moved to shutter nuclear plants and return to coal. The worst part? German coal is some of the worst in terms of sulfur and pollutants.
> So after Fukushima shrewd politicians moved to shutter nuclear plants and return to coal.
That's not true. The phasing out of nuclear energy was decided in the late 90s after the Social Democrats and Greens had taken over the government. This was part of a larger green energy package. This had been a major issue for the Greens since at least the 80s when the party was founded.
The Merkel government attempted to roll some of that back in 2010, but was blindsided by the Fukushima accident that caused public opinion to become much more polarised again w.r.t. nuclear energy.
Please stop spreading this misinformation that the end of nuclear energy in Germany was caused by Fukushima.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#6Sadly, the anti-nuclear movement in Germany is very strong. Germany also has a declining Coal industry. So after Fukushima shrewd politicians moved to shutter nuclear plants and return to coal. The worst part? German coal is some of the worst in terms of sulfur and pollutants.
> So after Fukushima shrewd politicians moved to shutter nuclear plants and return to coal. That's not true. The phasing out of nuclear energy was decided in the late 90s after the Social Democrats and Greens had taken over the government. This was part of a larger green energy package. This had been a major issue for the Greens since at least the 80s when the party was founded. The Merkel government attempted to rol…
it was intensified after Fukushima...
P.S. I misread the comment...
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#7Looking at the list of nuclear reactors in Germany Wikipedia has, while there are quite a few they don't seem to be very "good". There are disparate classes with little commonality and nothing in operation that has been built after ~1990.
A far cry for the massive french nuclear power program, which managed to achieve large cost benefits by deciding on a single reactor type and then deploying at a large scale, with only incremental updates in later generations.
In this light their decision to shutdown seems a little less insane, still could be bad to loose all the related knowledge and industry as a result, which might make deployment of new reactors in the future hard.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#8German subsidies in the 2000-2010 decade almost single-handedly financed the improvements in solar cells that sees them competitive with even coal today.
And because the environmental goals had higher rank than economic and selfish ones, they did not enact trade barriers, or lobby for them on an EU Level, even when it became clear it would be Chinese manufacturers reaping the profits of mass production.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#9Try pointing this out in Germany. Most people have no idea what kind of electricity they are actually buying, apart from choosing a greenwashed energy provider and paying through the nose.
Re: Germany is moving beyond nuclear power, but at what cost?
#10Nuclear energy, to start with, is ultimately not safe
Solar kills more people than nuclear per watt, so that’s the reporter’s personal agenda talking
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