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Re: How to Exit Vim

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post #135

Jokes aside, shouldn't the page start with actually teaching how to quit vim? The page is considerably popular to show up on a Google search. I imagine the frustration of a beginner actually trying the first examples and not getting the joke immediately.

Nope.

The best thing that can happen to a beginner is they continue being frustrated with vim, quit it before they get in too deep, and just use shitty idees like the rest of us trash.

Re: How to Exit Vim

#162
post #135

Jokes aside, shouldn't the page start with actually teaching how to quit vim? The page is considerably popular to show up on a Google search. I imagine the frustration of a beginner actually trying the first examples and not getting the joke immediately.

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Re: How to Exit Vim

#163
post #81

If exiting vim is too easy, try the advanced level: exiting "vim -y".

Try Ctrl-o followed by :q!

That should do it. ;)

Ctrl-o moves from INSERT mode to COMMAND mode for one command and so it still works in "easy" mode. I notice that "easy" mode was one of the things that the Nvim guys removed.

Re: How to Exit Vim

#164
post #145

The Scrum manager way 1. Call in a meeting, early in the morning 2. Tell everybody what a good job they are doing. 3. Tell everybody that there is still a lot to do. 4. Tell everybody that "we" can do it. 5. Remind them of the importance of team work. 6. Go through the tickets. 7. Tell the project manager that a ticket for closing Vim is missing. 8. Write a ticket called "As a user I want to exit Vim!" on your own. 8…

There is a step somewhere in there where we waste 30 minutes playing "agile poker" and arguing about the number of story points required to close vim.

The whole thing is followed up with a two hour retrospective where we pat ourselves on the back for increasing velocity (due to assigning story points to closing vim).

Bonus points if you then are asked to map that back to actual hours so we can estimate completely unrelated future tasks while simultaneously remembering that we don't estimate in hours.

Re: How to Exit Vim

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

CES hasn’t been relevant in the past decade. Why would we care?

> CES hasn’t been relevant in the past decade. Why would we care? And Vim is? When there are editors like VS Code?

who needs vs code when u have nano

Re: How to Exit Vim

#166
post #148
post #135

Jokes aside, shouldn't the page start with actually teaching how to quit vim? The page is considerably popular to show up on a Google search. I imagine the frustration of a beginner actually trying the first examples and not getting the joke immediately.

Yeah, I mean if you really wanted to help people exit Vim you'd trap Ctrl-c in command mode and print the instructions at the bottom of the screen. Something along the lines of "Type :qa and press to exit Vim" would probably do it...

At this point, learning how to exit vim by yourself is just standard hazing practice for new devs.

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Re: How to Exit Vim

#168
post #145

The Scrum manager way 1. Call in a meeting, early in the morning 2. Tell everybody what a good job they are doing. 3. Tell everybody that there is still a lot to do. 4. Tell everybody that "we" can do it. 5. Remind them of the importance of team work. 6. Go through the tickets. 7. Tell the project manager that a ticket for closing Vim is missing. 8. Write a ticket called "As a user I want to exit Vim!" on your own. 8…

10.5 create a deadline

13. Ask the team what we can do to make sure we don't have to miss the deadline

Re: How to Exit Vim

#170
post #145

The Scrum manager way 1. Call in a meeting, early in the morning 2. Tell everybody what a good job they are doing. 3. Tell everybody that there is still a lot to do. 4. Tell everybody that "we" can do it. 5. Remind them of the importance of team work. 6. Go through the tickets. 7. Tell the project manager that a ticket for closing Vim is missing. 8. Write a ticket called "As a user I want to exit Vim!" on your own. 8…

There is a step somewhere in there where we waste 30 minutes playing "agile poker" and arguing about the number of story points required to close vim. The whole thing is followed up with a two hour retrospective where we pat ourselves on the back for increasing velocity (due to assigning story points to closing vim). Bonus points if you then are asked to map that back to actual hours so we can estimate completely unr…

It saddens me to say, but this is so familiar. Especially working in a big corporate company where they hire scrum masters who just follow the scrum guide.
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