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Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by StavrosK »

enragedcacti wrote: post #27
StavrosK wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found that after I wrote the comment and had the same question. Also, what does "adding it" look like? Do I have to somehow interface it with the car's computer or other systems? I'm rather confused.

Adding a vehicle is the equivalent to writing drivers (heh) for your particular car. It entails reverse engineering your car's builtin driver assist features to determine which CAN messages do things like actuate the brakes and gas, turn the wheel with a given amount of torque, or communicate radar values from the cars builtin radar sensor. For many cars the CAN messages will be the same as similar models so porting…

Wait wait wait, are you telling me I can actuate the brakes and gas and turn the steering wheel via the CAN bus? So I can realize my dream of turning my car into an RC car just with a Raspberry Pi and a $4 dongle? That is the best news of the year!

Which cars have these sorts of actuators? How can I see if mine does?

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by bugsy924 »

macspoofing wrote: post #21
rvz wrote: post #11

If there is anything about Comma.ai that I have seen beyond the hype of self-driving cars, I see this as substance, unlike the rest of them AI self-driving cars (Except Tesla). The idea to turn your existing car into self-driving rather than spending $$$ on a new one makes sense for those saving money. Comma.ai is for cars what Linux is for PCs, meaning that you use open-source software and a hardware kit to make you…

>The idea to turn your existing car into self-driving rather than spending $$$ on a new one makes sense for those saving money. You sure this is where you want to save money on a self-driving system? God forbid there's an accident, what then? There's no big company you can point at for recourse and I guarantee that Comma.ai isn't going to stand by and accepted responsibility - their website makes it clear that the de…

It's only a level 2 system and with this hardware, won't ever be level 3

If there's an accident, the driver has to be pretty stupid. it's predictable, you know where its strong and weak points are. It has weak points when the roads get tricky. Previously it would panic through an intersection, this has since been improved upon.

Its eyes don't leave the road, people on their phones do. I wonder which cause more bumper to bumper collisions!

They probably won't accept responsibility, that's on the driver since openpilot is a driver assist system, not a higher level (L3+) self-driving system

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by agumonkey »

chrispauley wrote: post #9

The Comma One source code was put online (I think by the author?) and deemed to be incredibly dangerous. If I recall there was very little error handling. Does anyone know what has really changed since then?

the tensorflow codebase ? I forgot I read that..

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by agumonkey »

steakin wrote: post #36

"comma two is designed for permanent installation in your car." Okay, what's it do? "We’ve added an infrared camera to provide 24/7 driver monitoring, an integrated panda, a custom cooling solution, and an OBD-C port with power supplied directly from the car." Great, so it monitors cars... For what? Quick movements? What's a panda? I'd be interested if I knew what it was. "comes with three free months of comma prime"…

they need a job in a field very far away methinks

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by [deleted] »

iMuzz wrote: post #19

Quick bit of feedback for any Comma employees lurking: It took me a very long time to realize that this was a self-driving solution for existing vehicles. The hero just says "Driven over 6 million miles" and then a "Buy Now". When I scrolled down and looked at the product and read: > We’ve added an infrared camera to provide 24/7 driver monitoring, an integrated panda, a custom cooling solution, and an OBD-C port wit…

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Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by bugsy924 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #8
StavrosK wrote: post #3

What is this? The entire site already assumes you know what it does.

So, it appears to be a plug-in system to do automated cruise control and lane assist and driving in stop & go traffic. Out of curiosity, I checked for my car. It says it's not supported. BUT, Comma is open source, so I could add it myself. Does this imply they're encouraging anyone to write buggy code and drive their cars with it?!?

They highly discourage buggy code with no safety checks - I have been one of those people with no safety checks and have since implemented some

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by gricardo99 »

kgraves wrote: post #18
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #16

Comma.ai represents a strange attitude towards life in which you try to turn hard, serious problems (like self-driving), into trivial problems (write some Python and run it on Android phones and plug it into your car!) and try get away with it. It only has a chance of working if you are cool enough in SV such as geohot. I interviewed there once and it was extremely off-putting how clear their demand for fast progress…

I'm curious about this perspective and would like to know more, could you expand on this?

If you'd like to know more specifically about the comma.ai saga, regarding safety and regulation in the U.S., here's some background, previously covered on HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12840368

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/28/comma-ai-cancels-the-comma...

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