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Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

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Post by DonHopkins »

glennon wrote: post #29
has2k1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you, very interesting geography. Any theories on how the river broke through the mountain range, i.e. the timeline for the erosion? From my speculative chair, it looks like the river existed before the ranges.

This is a water gap, a feature which is commonly formed from a river older than the mountain range. In combination with that older river, in this case, the specific location was caused by "subrosion (a general expression applied to karst processes influencing the course of a river) and..meltwater channels at low altitudes" (Rohde 1994, Martini et al 2002-page 285). -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_gap -- https:…

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Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

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Post by ur-whale »

It's nice at a large enough away distance, but not so great if you zoom in.

[edit]:

Here are the alps, quite nicely rendered (kind of reminds me of a Tolkien map of middle earth).

https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#6.31/46.111/10.14

But here's a zoomed in rendering (of Sudtirol / Dolomites), no so great IMO:

https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#10/46.148/11.4086

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

#33

Post by DonHopkins »

madcaptenor wrote: post #9
jcfrei wrote: post #7

Nice! Really reminds me of the Unknown Pleasures album by Joy Division. Edit: Just noticed it's called a "joy plot" in the repo.

The R community started out calling these "joy plots" (after the Joy Division album) but then people found out about the association of "joy division" with the Holocaust ( https://serialmentor.com/blog/2017/9/15/goodbye-joyplots ) and so now they're called ridgeline plots.

Oh dear, that's also bad news for joysticks and the red "Joy Button" on the Thinkpad keyboard.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21757484

(But then again, since when did IBM ever shy away from selling their products to Nazis?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

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Post by DonHopkins »

jcfrei wrote: post #7

Nice! Really reminds me of the Unknown Pleasures album by Joy Division. Edit: Just noticed it's called a "joy plot" in the repo.

Very well done! I like how it can exaggerate the height arbitrarily enough to make it really stand out.

It would be cool to make the lines rotate and translate and scan around over the map like Max Headroom's background!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6epzmRZk6UU

I wonder how you could go about implementing it as a high performance shader?

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

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Post by homonculus1 »

madcaptenor wrote: post #9
jcfrei wrote: post #7

Nice! Really reminds me of the Unknown Pleasures album by Joy Division. Edit: Just noticed it's called a "joy plot" in the repo.

The R community started out calling these "joy plots" (after the Joy Division album) but then people found out about the association of "joy division" with the Holocaust ( https://serialmentor.com/blog/2017/9/15/goodbye-joyplots ) and so now they're called ridgeline plots.

That's really, really stupid. I wish the endless quest for moral purification of language would just die already but it's only getting worse. Prudes used to get upset over words for their meanings, then because the wrongs kinds of people used them. Now the etymology can be mined for cancellation reasons even if present usage is conceptually removed twice over. I wonder how the author copes with the ones that derive from slavery and brutal execution methods.

It's exhausting catering to these people who fixate on dredging up and removing any hint of bitterness from words. We need to start treating picky speakers like picky eaters instead of continually acquiescing to the tyranny of the minority. No more fucking chicken nuggets, we are adults here.

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

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Post by DonHopkins »

ur-whale wrote: post #32

It's nice at a large enough away distance, but not so great if you zoom in. [edit]: Here are the alps, quite nicely rendered (kind of reminds me of a Tolkien map of middle earth). https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#6.31/46.111/10.14 But here's a zoomed in rendering (of Sudtirol / Dolomites), no so great IMO: https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#10/46.148/11.4086

Devil's Tower:

https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#14.63/44.59011/-104.71462

Mt Fuji Crater:

https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#12.89/35.36449/138.72709

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

#38

Post by crazygringo »

DonHopkins wrote: post #33
madcaptenor wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The R community started out calling these "joy plots" (after the Joy Division album) but then people found out about the association of "joy division" with the Holocaust ( https://serialmentor.com/blog/2017/9/15/goodbye-joyplots ) and so now they're called ridgeline plots.

Oh dear, that's also bad news for joysticks and the red "Joy Button" on the Thinkpad keyboard. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21757484 (But then again, since when did IBM ever shy away from selling their products to Nazis?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

No it's not. "Joy" isn't a bad word. Joysticks seem to be fine.

It's specifically that the band "Joy Division" was named intentionally after a regrettable piece of history, and "joy plots" are named because of a Joy Division album cover.

Words aren't bad -- it's the meaning and derivation behind them. Etymology matters.

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

#39

Post by crazygringo »

homonculus1 wrote: post #36
madcaptenor wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The R community started out calling these "joy plots" (after the Joy Division album) but then people found out about the association of "joy division" with the Holocaust ( https://serialmentor.com/blog/2017/9/15/goodbye-joyplots ) and so now they're called ridgeline plots.

That's really, really stupid. I wish the endless quest for moral purification of language would just die already but it's only getting worse. Prudes used to get upset over words for their meanings, then because the wrongs kinds of people used them. Now the etymology can be mined for cancellation reasons even if present usage is conceptually removed twice over. I wonder how the author copes with the ones that derive f…

You're wrong a million times over.

The term "joy plot" was coined in 2017, just three years ago. It's not some ancient term.

This isn't about "cancelling". It's about something being in bad taste in the first place, even if the originator hadn't been aware of it.

It's kind of like how we don't use the racist term for Brazil nuts anymore. [1] Follow the link for the phrase, I'm not going to write it here. Surely you don't think you should be using that in everyday conversation, do you?

How about you show a little empathy, and realize that some terms are just gross to use? And that there's no reason to use one that brings up offensive associations, when we can use another that doesn't? It's just about being a decent human being and taking other people's feelings into account.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_nut

Re: Peak map: Visualize the elevation of any area using a ridgeline chart

#40

Post by tverbeure »

joe_blank wrote: post #6

https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#11.19/52.2305/8.9095 This is one of my favorite spots on the map. The mountainrange is dividing a big part of the north from southern region called Westphalia. Only one river breaks through it allowing for an easy way across the mountains. The citys name at that spot is Porta Westfalica which is Latin and means "gate to Westphalia". I think this visualization illustrates the reason…

Not as nice, but similar is the Delaware Water Gap between New Jersey and Pennsylvania:

https://anvaka.github.io/peak-map/#12.1/40.9711/-75.13641

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