24 people arrested and charged with arson causing Australian wildfires

Post by mikece » Tue, Jan 07, 2020, 5:46 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #28

mikece wrote: post #24

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You haven't heard all of the news coverage which constantly cite the global climate crisis as a direct contributing factor? It's right in the linked article above: Quote: There has been much debate about the links between climate change and the fires. Australian National University climate scientist Imran Ahmed told the BBC there was a direct link "because what climate change does is exacerbate the conditions in whic…

Climate contributing to the ease of ignition and overall severity of the fires and climate making people into arsonists are two wildly different claims.

Post by htfu » Tue, Jan 07, 2020, 5:51 PM UTC

flaque wrote: post #18

mikece wrote: post #10

Wait... it's arson? But the global climate crisis forced these people to set the fires, right? (Just want to get my talking points right.)

Stop with the strawman. A dryer, hotter climate will cause fires to get larger and do more damage. No one says that a hotter climate will cause the initial burn spontaneously.

Post by Huycfhct » Tue, Jan 07, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

Post by Jimmie_Rustle » Tue, Jan 07, 2020, 5:54 PM UTC

harikb wrote: post #25

nesky wrote: post #20

> New South Wales police said that since the beginning of November, 24 people have been charged over allegedly deliberately lighting fires as officers continue to investigate the role that arson has played in the devastation. > Police in the state have also taken legal action against a further 159 people. Among them are 53 people who allegedly failed to comply with a total fire ban and 47 people who allegedly discard…

I think this is also part of the disinformation campaign. AU's current administration has a lot bet on proving some other root cause and the not caused by ruling coal lobby.

Post by lern_too_spel » Tue, Jan 07, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

vuln wrote: post #8

lern_too_spel wrote: post #3

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And you're a fan of Townhall? Newsweek is just a summarizer, but Townhall is a spin rag. Nobody claims that climate change starts fires (how can an increase in temperature of a few degrees ignite a fire?) but that it makes the forest fire season longer in certain parts of the world. Your article sets up that strawman very prettily.

> Nobody claims that climate change starts fires https://www.c2es.org/content/wildfires-and-climate-change/ https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2912/satellite-data-record-sho... https://www.npr.org/2020/01/04/793572196/how-climate-change-... https://www.npr.org/2020/01/04/793572196/how-climate-change-...