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America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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I just think you're damaging your kids by not giving them milk, which is the most nutritious thing you can feed a kid. Also, your kids may be lactose intolerant due to other stuff in their diet, like gluten or other toxins in plant-based foods that lead to a leaky gut.

If milk is so good, keep them on Mother's milk.

Bitty! Lol :-)

(Ref: 'Little Britain') https://youtu.be/FmD2Y6WxpIw?t=61

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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We use pea milk with our kids because they're lactose intolerant. Pediatrician recommended as long as they're getting more protein and fat elsewhere in their diet (which they do). It doesn't hurt that peas don't care how they're raised and treated to produce milk. Dairy milk is not nutritionally necessary in any age cohort. If you enjoy it, that's fine of course, but it isn't required if you don't.

How did you determine that they are lactose intolerant? Just trial and error, or is there a specific way to confirm this?

Trial and error.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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A counterpoint: these companies were recently bought by private equity firm KKR Co, the same company that loaded up Toys 'R Us with debt and then liquidated it. https://mobile.twitter.com/rhinosoros/status/121424602712711... This bankruptcy filling might just be negotiation in the courts to reduce pension obligations.

I don't understand how bigger waves haven't yet been made about these locusts. Where's the New York Times expose? Proposals by Congress on how to make this vampirism illegal? Literally anything?

https://www.nytimes.com/search?dropmab=false&endDate=2020010...

There’s like 10 different companies discussed on the first page itself, including the specific company here.

I mean, it’s all over mainstream media.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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A counterpoint: these companies were recently bought by private equity firm KKR Co, the same company that loaded up Toys 'R Us with debt and then liquidated it. https://mobile.twitter.com/rhinosoros/status/121424602712711... This bankruptcy filling might just be negotiation in the courts to reduce pension obligations.

I don't understand how bigger waves haven't yet been made about these locusts. Where's the New York Times expose? Proposals by Congress on how to make this vampirism illegal? Literally anything?

I mean it was a core plot point of Pretty Woman back in 1990. People are aware of asset strippers.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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There's evidence my ancestors have been drinking milk for at least 10,000 years. It's field tested.

> There's evidence my ancestors have been drinking milk for at least 10,000 years Most humans can't digest lactose after infancy [1]. For those who can, we have limited research around the quantity in and frequency with which their ancestors consumed whole milk. Comparisons to modern milk, produced by stressed-out cows bred for volume and fed god-knows-what, are tenuous. [1] https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-…

  Most humans can't digest lactose after infancy [1].
That source: "Approximately 65 percent of the human population has a reduced ability to digest lactose after infancy."

"Reduced ability" != "Can't"

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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Where did you get that idea? Milk is one of the 2-3 most nutritious foods on Earth. In fact, milk has been designed by evolution over millions of years to be precisely what a mammal needs to thrive.

> designed by evolution over millions of years to be precisely what a mammal needs to thrive Infant mammals. Adults consuming the milk of another species is recent. (About 10,000 years in humans.) We have mixed evidence for the benefits of milk. It was a rich source of calories when those were scarce. Today, it might promote obesity. And good advice for some is bad advice for others. For example, milk boosts iron at…

  production was threatened. So civilian demand was boosted.
That makes no sense. When production is "threatened", artificially boosting demand would be the exactly wrong thing to do.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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> designed by evolution over millions of years to be precisely what a mammal needs to thrive Infant mammals. Adults consuming the milk of another species is recent. (About 10,000 years in humans.) We have mixed evidence for the benefits of milk. It was a rich source of calories when those were scarce. Today, it might promote obesity. And good advice for some is bad advice for others. For example, milk boosts iron at…

production was threatened. So civilian demand was boosted. That makes no sense. When production is "threatened", artificially boosting demand would be the exactly wrong thing to do.

> When production is "threatened", artificially boosting demand would be the exactly wrong thing to do

There was wartime demand. Dairy farmers invested to meet it. War ends. Demand goes down. That capital must now be written off, re-purposed, or the demand re-started. We chose the last option.

Production as in productive capital or productive potential.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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There's evidence my ancestors have been drinking milk for at least 10,000 years. It's field tested.

> There's evidence my ancestors have been drinking milk for at least 10,000 years Most humans can't digest lactose after infancy [1]. For those who can, we have limited research around the quantity in and frequency with which their ancestors consumed whole milk. Comparisons to modern milk, produced by stressed-out cows bred for volume and fed god-knows-what, are tenuous. [1] https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-…

>Most humans can't digest lactose after infancy [1].

Here (Europe) most can. So it's normal to digest lactose here. In other words, yes percentage wise you are correct. But is's not equally distributed.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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We use pea milk with our kids because they're lactose intolerant. Pediatrician recommended as long as they're getting more protein and fat elsewhere in their diet (which they do). It doesn't hurt that peas don't care how they're raised and treated to produce milk. Dairy milk is not nutritionally necessary in any age cohort. If you enjoy it, that's fine of course, but it isn't required if you don't.

I just think you're damaging your kids by not giving them milk, which is the most nutritious thing you can feed a kid. Also, your kids may be lactose intolerant due to other stuff in their diet, like gluten or other toxins in plant-based foods that lead to a leaky gut.

Nobody is damaging their kids by not giving milk unless they're not giving mother's milk (or human milk). There are alternatives that may be more suitable and better than the milk of a cow or a buffalo (or some other mammal).

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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I don't understand how bigger waves haven't yet been made about these locusts. Where's the New York Times expose? Proposals by Congress on how to make this vampirism illegal? Literally anything?

Tucker Carlson had a good segment on one example of private equity destroying a small American town by bankrupting a business that was by all measures doing well. I haven't seen it anywhere else in mainstream media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwH066g5lQ

Hasn't John Oliver done an item about this a few years ago?
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