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Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

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Post by omarchowdhury »

jshevek wrote: post #10
jamiequint wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Look at me I'm so self-important I must not let any service I use collect information about how I use their product to make the service better, that would be horrible, god fucking forbid"

I see nothing in the parent comment to imply a desire for gratuitous attention, nor self importance, nor a predilection for drama nor profanity. I just see someone who is tired of being tracked, and earnestly wants to know how to opt out.

Parent's HN profile indicates a 2009 registration date and whose Keybase reveals they're a software dev... I'd bet he knows how to block javascript and/or maintain a host files block list. But I'm being assumptive.

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

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Post by soumyadeb »

mschaecher wrote: post #6

Perfect timing as we have a huge need for this for an upcoming launch. Question...will you be able to replay/backfill as you add new integrations? For example, Klaviyo is a huge hole in your integrations right now especially for marketing and ecomm. If I install Autotrack now, set up a few events and then a month from now you add Klaviyo, I can just replay everything into Klaviyo? Also FWIW, I was an early user at Se…

Congrats to Freshpaint on your launch. The product looks super-cool.

Disclaimer: I am the founder of Rudder (https://github.com/rudderlabs/rudder-server/), an open-source Segment alternative.

We have the feature that you are asking for. We have an auto-tracking JS SDK which captures all events and dumps into S3. You can map these dom-level raw events to virtual events via a simple javascript transformation function. We also have replay so you can retroactively do the mapping and send old events to different destinations.

What we don't have is the nice UI to create virtual events from the raw events, that Freshpaint has built. Looks super cool!!

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

#14

Post by nlh »

Ah ha! Your quoted "horror story" comment is mine, so I guess I'm obligated to check Freshpaint out. Will do :)

You mentioned that you were early Heap employees. At one point it looked like Heap was heading in this direction as well (with their own warehouse & destinations and sources, etc.) But I just checked their site out and it looks like they're back to going all-in on "capture everything ananlytics". Is that accurate?

So I suppose it would be fair to say Freshpaint:Segment :: Heap:Mixpanel (et al)?

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

#15

Post by malisper »

UnbugMe wrote: post #12

This is a really cool product. Very impressive that you were able to build to many integrations with such a small team. Any advice on how you did that?

Thanks!

The secret is that most APIs that accept event data are pretty much identical. They have some method or endpoint where you send a JSON dictionary of properties. Once we had had the core event processing down, it wasn't hard to quickly add a lot of integrations.

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

#16

Post by malisper »

singingwolfboy wrote: post #3

Any time I hear about a hot new analytics company, my first thought is always: how do I opt out? Freshpaint, how do I opt out of your data collection? Now, into the future, and also for any historical data that you might have collected about me.

We respect Do Not Track. If you have Do Not Track enabled, we won't collect any data from you. Unfortunately Do Not Track has a number of fundamental issues and I'm not aware of any better way to signal you want to opt out.

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

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Post by isitvaporware »

UnbugMe wrote: post #12

This is a really cool product. Very impressive that you were able to build to many integrations with such a small team. Any advice on how you did that?

How many of these are real? I don't care how efficient you are as a team. I see 50+ integrations and one engineer on the team, on top of a complicated base product.

Color me suspicious...

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

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Post by malisper »

mschaecher wrote: post #6

Perfect timing as we have a huge need for this for an upcoming launch. Question...will you be able to replay/backfill as you add new integrations? For example, Klaviyo is a huge hole in your integrations right now especially for marketing and ecomm. If I install Autotrack now, set up a few events and then a month from now you add Klaviyo, I can just replay everything into Klaviyo? Also FWIW, I was an early user at Se…

> Question...will you be able to replay/backfill as you add new integrations?

Yes, absolutely! As long as the destination is able to accept timestamped data, you'll be able to replay all historical data since you installed Freshpaint.

Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

#19

Post by [deleted] »

jshevek wrote: post #10
jamiequint wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Look at me I'm so self-important I must not let any service I use collect information about how I use their product to make the service better, that would be horrible, god fucking forbid"

I see nothing in the parent comment to imply a desire for gratuitous attention, nor self importance, nor a predilection for drama nor profanity. I just see someone who is tired of being tracked, and earnestly wants to know how to opt out.

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Re: Launch HN: Freshpaint (YC S19) – Automated, Retroactive Alternative to Segment

#20

Post by malisper »

nlh wrote: post #14

Ah ha! Your quoted "horror story" comment is mine, so I guess I'm obligated to check Freshpaint out. Will do :) You mentioned that you were early Heap employees. At one point it looked like Heap was heading in this direction as well (with their own warehouse & destinations and sources, etc.) But I just checked their site out and it looks like they're back to going all-in on "capture everything ananlytics". Is that ac…

Heap has changed directions a lot over the last several years. When I about a year ago, they were going all-in on product analytics. They were focusing a lot on new kinds of analysis features. The last project I worked on was their path analysis feature[0].

> So I suppose it would be fair to say Freshpaint:Segment :: Heap:Mixpanel (et al)?

Yep! You hit the nail on the head.

[0] https://heap.io/paths

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