Google shareholders say "Go right ahead, be evil." • Hacker News Board

Re: Google shareholders say "Go right ahead, be evil."

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Post by lupin_sansei » Mon, May 14, 2007, 4:04 AM UTC

albertcardona wrote: post #39

lupin_sansei wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point! And hanging out on the forum of a company which explicitly helps people start companies to freely get rich.

I came to the USA following a professor I just wanted to work with. He came here in the 80's because of the weather (no kidding), given an existing research environment similar to Europe. Before landing here I thought the USA was a great country. But my preconceptions have fallen. I am aware I have started a thread that is drifting way off topic and can potentially get very personal. If you'd like to discuss the issu…

"I am aware I have started a thread that is drifting way off topic and can potentially get very personal"

You sound like a nice guy, I just hate these myths that the US is somehow a hellhole compared to Europe. And you failed to demonstrate why the US is less free than Europe.

"We can then talk about why I pay almost identical income taxes in the USA and in Spain"

USA: top income tax rate and the top corporate tax rate are 35 percent.

Spain: top income tax rate is 45 percent, and the top corporate tax rate is 35 percent.

Now for the jugular (from heritage.org)!

USA: Unemployment: 5.5%, $39,676 per capita

Spain: Unemployment: 11%, GDP per capita $25,047

It would seem that Americans are almost twice as wealthy as Spaniards, pay less income tax, and have more than half the unemployment.

Re: Google shareholders say "Go right ahead, be evil."

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Post by pg » Mon, May 14, 2007, 5:11 PM UTC

dfranke wrote: post #40

pg wrote: post #34

You guys are still arguing about this after two days? There ought to be a variant of Parkinson's Law about how much easier it is to argue about politics than other matters. It's like a ground state one sinks into. Individuals and sites...

I've never heard of those, and the last time I tried to edit an OS X keymap I gave up in frustration, but for HTML, a workaround is to type '

Thanks, I used your suggestion to get apostrophes, which is why it will seem incomprehensible to anyone reading it later.

Re: Google shareholders say "Go right ahead, be evil."

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Post by busy_beaver » Mon, May 14, 2007, 5:48 PM UTC

busy_beaver wrote: post #38

pg wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not reddit. Be polite.

The gratuitous U.S. bashing in this thread looks exactly like something you'd see on Reddit (more likely, Digg). Not only is it ugly, it's utterly irrelevant to the nominal topic of discussion. Even if the U.S. were Nazi Germany, the Stalinist U.S.S.R., and the Pol Pot regime rolled into one, it would have zero relevance to the ethical position of Google with the Chinese government. I suppose I could have said that P…

Ah, and I see my original post has been modded down to zero, in the classic Digg-style mob rule fashion.

I'm outta here.

Re: Google shareholders say "Go right ahead, be evil."

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Post by paul » Mon, May 14, 2007, 10:08 PM UTC

busy_beaver wrote: post #38

pg wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not reddit. Be polite.

The gratuitous U.S. bashing in this thread looks exactly like something you'd see on Reddit (more likely, Digg). Not only is it ugly, it's utterly irrelevant to the nominal topic of discussion. Even if the U.S. were Nazi Germany, the Stalinist U.S.S.R., and the Pol Pot regime rolled into one, it would have zero relevance to the ethical position of Google with the Chinese government. I suppose I could have said that P…

My point is that no place is perfect and that different countries have different problems. It's not US bashing to suggest that we are not perfect, and that everything isn't black and white.