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> Every day you stay at Google the more valuable you become. Ehhh, to a point. Straight out of college and then (e.g.) 10 or 15 years at the same company says a lot about a person.
What do you mean?
Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?
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You didn’t read his whole post. They’re bored. Their value to google is high enough to keep them employed but the job is beneath their capabilities. The failing for google is not providing this person a path to do more or at least understanding their ambition to do more.
99% of jobs are boring. You're just solving other people's business problems after all.
Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?
#263If you can not only survive at Google but slack along well enough to get promoted once on "10% of your mental capacity" I'd stay right where you are. You aren't going to find a better place to earn money for equivalent effort and it sounds like you've already adapted to the ecosystem. Sounds like you need an interesting side project or just a meaningful hobby. Don't go looking for the missing sense of fulfillment you…
I have no clue what working at FAANG is really like, but from the comments I read it is said to be very much an "up or out" culture. So I wonder how it is even possible to stay for six years with only one promotion and how long this is going to go well?
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#264Humblebrag much? I spent the first 7 years of my career in the public sector. Talk about a career killer. If you are concerned about getting a job elsewhere, just study and do online coding exercises like crazy. That should land you a job at most companies with whiteboard interview at your seniority level. If you are concerned about actual learning, most of my professional growth has been on the job. I spent a long w…
Is this really the new go-to for the software industry?
Which "online exercises" and "study" tools do you recommend the most?
I would love to visualize what this new canonical basis looks like. Since it will apparently define the software of the 2020s.
Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?
#265You don't realize how good you have it: 1. you work for a company that is an excellent resume booster outside of the valley. I'm from central texas and most everyone I know in tech has worked at Dell and once complained how boring it was to work at Dell. The moment they decided to move away from Austin their Dell experience made them very hot commodities to non-Austin tech companies. Every day you stay at Google the…
I think this highlights the fundamental problem with hiring at many large companies. They think they are getting the best, but are they? They sure are overpaying for their employees. I think if OP isn't motivated enough to learn, excel, and build cool things on the side while he has a catered life at google, I don't think she/he will put in much effort elsewhere? That intrinsic motivation isn't there. And it honestly…
it took me leaving a job that i thought i was stuck in to find my inner musician, snowboard daily, and ultimately start my first business.
sometimes being an employee is just a soul-sucking adventure
Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?
#266You remind me myself a few years ago: a talented, but bored slacker who didn't see any point in investing any energy into that project. Turns out I was right: the project didn't go anywhere after I left and investing any extra time would be a clueless thing to do. So what's changed since then? Have I found meaning in work? No! I've become a professional slacker who knows all these psychological tricks, knows what bod…
This blows my mind that in the US one can make such insane money in tech while still being a slacker and retire early with a dream house bought and paid for while in Europe devs are slaving away through SCRUM powered meat grinders burning themselves out for a 3% salary increase on a pitiful 40-80k/year, no stock options, without any hope of early retirement or owning a decent home without a 30 year loan or financial…
Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?
#267Humblebrag much? I spent the first 7 years of my career in the public sector. Talk about a career killer. If you are concerned about getting a job elsewhere, just study and do online coding exercises like crazy. That should land you a job at most companies with whiteboard interview at your seniority level. If you are concerned about actual learning, most of my professional growth has been on the job. I spent a long w…
People like OP make me sick.
Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?
#268I worked at Google for eight years, and fell into a funk, because I picked up new challenges and moved teams, and learned a whole lot, but I also worked on backend infra projects, not shippable features, and you know how well that goes over with the perf review and promo committee.
So, I left for a startup. It was trial by fire, because Google does thing the Google way, and everyone else uses other technologies. Gone were borg, stubby, tap, and in came Kubernetes, REST, Jenkins. It took a long time to learn how the rest of the world works, and Google wasn't my first job, I started there after already working for fifteen years, but in eight years, the world changes a lot.
Now, I'm the main tech lead for a large startup on the verge of success. It's been a crap ton of work, grueling, I've probably made 30% of the income I would have if I stayed at Google in the years that I've been gone, but I've also worked with the best people I've ever encountered - better than at Google, and I feel professionally successful, albeit not financially.
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#270Does anyone else feel like a 3rd or 4th class citizen reading posts like these? How is someone supposed to "compete" financially or socially when there is a magic gate with so much privilege on the other side?