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Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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Is the goal to stop being watched or not having your info being sold as a product to others? The title seems to imply the second while talking about the first?!

I'm glad for anyone who refuses to use products of these megacorps, as those are the people that keep alternatives alive and that's a check on power of comapnies like Google or Microsoft.

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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post #23

This reminds me of people trying to cut out plastics from there life. This is hard because plastic is cheap, convinient, useful and it's embedded in every product in modern life.... Just like Google

I don't see the problem. There's still privacy benefits to be had by cutting Google out of your life 90% of the time, or even 75% or 50% of the time. I've largely cut out Google, but still occassionally use YouTube, Maps (usually through a 3rd party), and very rarely search. For me, StreetView and the huge library on YouTube are just too useful to completely give up, and, unfortunately, I don't know of any alternativ…

yeah, the original comment's comparison seems disingenuous as it just lists various generic positive things and completely ignores any negatives. television would also seemingly fit the bill.

there are obvious downsides to plastics, google and TV. that excising it completely is extremely difficult if not impossible in the modern world does not diminish the positive effects of reducing consumption.

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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I am going down this road atm. I just signed up for fastmail, but I don't see it on this list, does anyone have any comparisons with the others listed? My main concern was being able to use my own domain.

Just commented on this myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21964531. I can't recommend Fastmail enough. If you really wanna save money, Zoho allows you one free email alias. They seem like a pretty cool company too, but Fastmail is more mature and so simple, easy-to-use, and feature-rich. I signed up for a three year subscription with them instead.

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

#34

I am going down this road atm. I just signed up for fastmail, but I don't see it on this list, does anyone have any comparisons with the others listed? My main concern was being able to use my own domain.

Also, setting up an email alias for my custom domain was a complete breeze. They give you instructions on how to do it and explain each step. I think they offer a 1 month free trial. Try it out.

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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I've stopped using every Google product but Google search, and unfortunately Google Captcha, which I absolutely abhor. I downloaded Google Photos a few days ago to try and export some old photos and it refuses to let you view your old photos until you have give access to your current photos. That really typifies my experience with Google.

Also there is no easy way to export all your photos. I learned this the hard way when I decided to move my photos to iCloud. There used to be an option in Drive to link your Google Photos albums and download them, but they removed it. You can request your data from Google and then download a large ZIP, but I had numerous issues with it and it broke the Live photos from iPhone. In the end I had to manually select ~100…

I was going to suggest to use rclone to download everything, but it seems that they are a couple of limitations: https://rclone.org/googlephotos/#downloading-images

Seems that using Google takeout is your best bet.

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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post #16

I almost successfully cut Google out with one exception, YouTube, I don't seem to be able to find what I get there anywhere else. Fun anecdote: Google is very smart, because I've been a paying customer of YouTube for a long time they gave me a Google Nest Mini for Christmas free of charge. And it fills another niche which I can't really find a meaningful alternative for: Speech to text hardware/software which can be…

Could one use AWS AppStream [0] or Mighty [1] or similar tech to proxy-view YouTube?

[0] https://aws.amazon.com/appstream2/

[1] https://mightyapp.com/

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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Looked at the site. Not sure I understand what flagging the services as 5-eyes, etc. is supposed to mean. Perhaps - sponsored by 5-eyes (that seems to miss the point) - prevents spying by 5-eyes? This seems strange also. Clarifications welcomed.

The idea is that if you operate a server in -eyes territories then your data is not secure.

I'm not sure I buy this argument though. We've seen companies just not hold onto data, be served, and release "sorry we got nothing". AFAIK you don't have to create backdoors for the NSA. Canaries are legal. You don't have to store data. So listing if a service is from a -eyes country misses the point really. Point being if the service is secure and follows best practices or not. Something isn't secure because it is located in Switzerland.

Or am I missing something?

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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post #23

This reminds me of people trying to cut out plastics from there life. This is hard because plastic is cheap, convinient, useful and it's embedded in every product in modern life.... Just like Google

Liking this analogy - if we continue the logic - there is another property of plastic in that it’s known to be toxic with mass consumption.

Also would the advertising industry then be like oil/petrochemical complex?

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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I'm surprised to see that Fastmail is not listed as a Gmail alternative. I've tried it, Protonmail, and Zoho as replacements. IMO, Fastmail has the simplest interface and best suite of tools. I had trouble setting up an alias with Protonmail. Fastmail provides very clear instructions for this right on the app. Zoho was cool in that it lets you use a custom alias for free, but it just felt too cluttered. I also rememb…

> I also remember reading somewhere on HN that the creators of Protonmail have some dubious ties

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21680293

Interestingly, u/protonmail's contributions is littered with comments trying to defend ProtonVPN against such allegations here on HN. I guess, user paranoia is the bane of privacy-as-a-service upstarts.

Re: Zoho:

As a Zoho user myself, I must point out that though India isn't 5 eyes or 9 eyes, it has some of the most restrictive laws in terms of Internet freedom and is a surveillance state.

Ref: https://internetfreedom.in/

Re: Cutting Google out of your life (2019)

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ReCaptcha is about the only google product that I still have to use... some 15% of websites I use eventually make me reCaptcha.

Everything else is blocked with pihole/uMatrix/pf. Been this way for about six months now. Occasionally I still youtube-dl from a server and scp the file locally.

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