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Re: Google Will Collapse

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Post by mdale »

mikl wrote: post #29
xref wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought a recent article here said YouTube passed the break-even point in 2015

They might have been profitable before the adpocalypse, but I highly doubt that’s still the case. They lost a huge chunk of ad revenue then, and will be losing another huge chunk with the new COPPA rules forbidding them from serving ads on videos targetting children. Combine that with a massive rise in staffing costs from all the new "Trust and Safety" people they’ve added. Of course, Alphabet are keeping the actual…

I consider it highly unlikely it's looking bad.

Playing ads on the internet at scale (where your control you content costs) is profitable else no other companies would not be doing it.

Think of companies like tubi breaking into profitability in isolation without anywhere near the scale that YouTube operates at. https://www.businessinsider.com/tubi-tv-profitability-avod-o...

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Post by beatgammit »

TakakiTohno wrote: post #10
eisvogel wrote: post #8

I went to medium.com to read this article about the forthcoming collapse of Google, and I noticed that medium.com wanted me to log in using my Google account. I find this ... unconvincing.

Medium sucks without premium. I don't know why they went with that route

It sucks with premium. I don't understand why people still bother with the platform.

Re: Google Will Collapse

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Post by marmaduke »

goldcd wrote: post #24

Well that was an underwhelming argument.. google is shit random links* - DOWNLOAD BRAVE!" My (and please feel free to take a pop at me) riposte is that Google is the single large Internet company that keeps encroaching into my privacy/life - but gives me enough carrot with each stick for me to forgive them. Yes, I'm being data-raped, but they're actually pretty open with it and provide me some use from this data. e.g…

> data-raped

Please don't dilute the meaning of words like this. As your post acknowledges the use of your data is entirely consensual and sprinkling rape in their is just for shock value only bros could consider ok

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Post by speedplane »

marmaduke wrote: post #35
goldcd wrote: post #24

Well that was an underwhelming argument.. google is shit random links* - DOWNLOAD BRAVE!" My (and please feel free to take a pop at me) riposte is that Google is the single large Internet company that keeps encroaching into my privacy/life - but gives me enough carrot with each stick for me to forgive them. Yes, I'm being data-raped, but they're actually pretty open with it and provide me some use from this data. e.g…

> data-raped Please don't dilute the meaning of words like this. As your post acknowledges the use of your data is entirely consensual and sprinkling rape in their is just for shock value only bros could consider ok

>> data-raped

> Please don't dilute the meaning of words like this.

It's a bad term, but telling people how to speak provoke's backlash and resentment. It's more effective to explain the effect phrases like this have on people (as you did) and let them make their own decision then telling them to not say it.

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Post by goldcd »

marmaduke wrote: post #35
goldcd wrote: post #24

Well that was an underwhelming argument.. google is shit random links* - DOWNLOAD BRAVE!" My (and please feel free to take a pop at me) riposte is that Google is the single large Internet company that keeps encroaching into my privacy/life - but gives me enough carrot with each stick for me to forgive them. Yes, I'm being data-raped, but they're actually pretty open with it and provide me some use from this data. e.g…

> data-raped Please don't dilute the meaning of words like this. As your post acknowledges the use of your data is entirely consensual and sprinkling rape in their is just for shock value only bros could consider ok

Now stop that - Do you honestly (imagine I'm sat across the table from you, giving you a hard look) think I was trying in any sense to "devalue/mitigate/desensitize rape"?

And don't you even try arguing that your problem isn't directly with me, but your concern is that others reading my post might get the wrong end of it.

Re: Google Will Collapse

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Post by dacoja »

jVinc wrote: post #14

Should have put the disclaimer first. This is just a guy betting on Brave trying to write up some imaginary future where Brave causes google to collapse.

I wrote the first version before I had even heard of Brave. I recommend reading that one first and see if you still think that. (It's linked at the bottom of the article.)

I only added that part in the updated version a couple months ago because after learning everything I have about Brave since writing the article, I would feel remiss not mentioning it. What Brave is building truly feels to me like the best antidote to the adtech monstrosity Google and Facebook have created, and Brave is the only company I see with a clear vision on how to solve the problems for all parties (users, publishers, and advertisers).

If Brave was just another startup tackling a big problem, I wouldn't even think of mentioning it. But Brendan Eich is the one running this company, and he is undeniably one of the most influential people in the history of the web. He created the protocol that moved the web from 1.0 and 2.0, and then cofounded the company that took down the biggest browser of the time controlled by the monopolistic tech company of its day.

Who better to take down the biggest browser of today and create the protocol to move the web from 2.0 to 3.0?

—a guy betting on Brave

Re: Google Will Collapse

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Post by marmaduke »

goldcd wrote: post #37
marmaduke wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> data-raped Please don't dilute the meaning of words like this. As your post acknowledges the use of your data is entirely consensual and sprinkling rape in their is just for shock value only bros could consider ok

Now stop that - Do you honestly (imagine I'm sat across the table from you, giving you a hard look) think I was trying in any sense to "devalue/mitigate/desensitize rape"? And don't you even try arguing that your problem isn't directly with me, but your concern is that others reading my post might get the wrong end of it.

> Do you honestly think I was trying

No, I think it's an inappropriate superfluous shock-value word in this context.

> don't you even try arguing that your problem isn't directly with me

I wasn't going to!

Re: Google Will Collapse

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Post by goldcd »

marmaduke wrote: post #39
goldcd wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now stop that - Do you honestly (imagine I'm sat across the table from you, giving you a hard look) think I was trying in any sense to "devalue/mitigate/desensitize rape"? And don't you even try arguing that your problem isn't directly with me, but your concern is that others reading my post might get the wrong end of it.

> Do you honestly think I was trying No, I think it's an inappropriate superfluous shock-value word in this context. > don't you even try arguing that your problem isn't directly with me I wasn't going to!

It was just a bit of hyperbole.

Do you feel equally outraged to condemn "murder" if anybody uses the verb "kill"?

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