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Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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Yes. I have always loved books. I read about 30-40 a year, mostly fiction with a few non-fiction thrown in. Novels are the closest thing I know to a form of magic. A good author can completely encode an entire world full of people on 300 pages of black and white text. And when they do it well, it literally never expires. I read mostly books from the last 50 years but I think the best example of a book as magic is Don…

How do you decide which books to read?

I'm not OP, but here's what I do.

I keep a list of books I want to read on Goodreads. When a friend mentions a book they liked, I add it on the mobile app. When someone mentions something here or on Reddit, I do the same. I keep adding books without any commitment to actually reading them, and then I review the list whenever I need another book.

I use a couple of browser extensions that tell me what's available at my library on Goodreads:

- Available Reads - checks which books are available as eBooks or Audiobooks on OverDrive (online service through the library) - Library Extension - checks specific books if they're available at a set of libraries (physical books or eBooks/audiobooks)

I like the first because it creates a sortable list on my "to read" shelf, whereas the second is useful if I'm looking at a specific book.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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post #87

Yes. I have always loved books. I read about 30-40 a year, mostly fiction with a few non-fiction thrown in. Novels are the closest thing I know to a form of magic. A good author can completely encode an entire world full of people on 300 pages of black and white text. And when they do it well, it literally never expires. I read mostly books from the last 50 years but I think the best example of a book as magic is Don…

Here is one of R.A. Lafferty's short stories (many of his works are available online, a handful are in print in the UK), http://ralafferty.com/2017/05/22/through-other-eyes/

"The Cerebral Scanner, newly completed by Charles Cogsworth, was not an intricate machine. It was a small but ingenious amplifying device, or battery of amplifiers, designed for the synchronous—perhaps “sympathetic” would be a better word—coupling of two very intricate machines: two human brains. It was an amplifier only. A subliminal coupling, or the possibility of it, was already assumed by the inventor. Less than a score of key aspects needed emphasizing for the whole thing to come to life ... It had been a long-held opinion of Cogsworth that, by the proper amplification of a near score of these impulses in one brain, a transmission could be effected to another so completely that one man might for an instant see with the eyes of another—also see inwardly with that man’s eyes, have the same imaginings and daydreams, perceive the same universe as the other perceived. And it would not be the same universe as the seeking man knew ... This idea of his—to enter into the mind of another, to peer from behind another’s eyes into a world that could not be the same—this idea had been with him all his life. He recalled how it had first come down on him in all its strength when he was quite small.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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A related question is whether you should read “electronic books” (e.g. E-readers) vs. physical books. I’m part of the bridge generation that grew up with only physical books but then everything went digital, and I find that so far, I can’t replace the act of physically reading a book with the digital equivalent, it just doesn’t feel the same. Are there people here who only use e-readers and prefer that for functional…

I read a lot and I use both ebooks and physical books. I'm pretty happy with my Kobo e-reader. The screen is perfect for text even in the sun, the back lighting means I can read in the dark, and I can move between reading on the Kobo, my iPad, and my Win10 box. Books with photos are better on the iPad, though. Also, the kobo has no advertising.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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I believe most of us are living a "Google Bubble". When we are online, our exposure to knowledge on a topic is limited by Search algorithms, personalizations, the availability of content that is digitized and searchable, etc. The people who comment on discussions, who creates content, etc. are also subject to this bias. This slice is not really the same as the larger body of collection of knowledge and insights about a particular topic. Even considering the limitation of knowledge that is digitized, there are plenty of sources that are not accessible and searchable (papers, talks, radio programs, conversations, personal anecdotes etc.). Books give a window to this larger world. This is the way we have done it for 5000 years. Books, in case of non-fiction, are written by people who have spent significant (sometimes their lifetime) time learning about a topic. And I believe the same logic applies for fiction. The ideas and imaginations of whole of human kind is not same as those of people who devotes time to create content online. In short, books are a different way (and arguably better) to expand your horizon.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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Books are the best way to expand your cognitive capabilities. A writer spends at least 500 hours on a book. Reading a book is like having conversation with the writer. I prefer to read non-fiction books, many of which I found through HN or podcasts.

I recently switched from ibooks to google books because googles app has a superior reading experience on iOS. Plus the highlights are integrated with google docs. So after color highlighting sections I have a summary of interesting quotes automatically in a G Doc for every book in my gdrive. I haven't got the time yet to write a script to auto sync these quotes with google keep to function as a flashcard system.

I recommend the books of Jim Collins, he was a coach for Steve Jobs and personal advisor to Jeffrey Bezos. Amazons business flywheel is based on the theories developed by Jim Collins.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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> I have thousands of non-fiction (mostly self-improvement) books in my reading list “An honest bookstore would post the following sign above its ‘self-help’ section: ‘For true self-help, please visit our philosophy, literature, history and science sections, find yourself a good book, read it, and think about it.’” — Roger Ebert ( https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/larger-than-life-1996 )

The people in the self-help section need something else . Those things (philosophy, literature, history and science) are the luxury of folks who aren't struggling with e.g. depression, abuse, drugs & alcohol, co-dependency, etc. It's a little like, "Have you tried not having a broken leg?" Honestly, you're lucky if the only personal problems you have can be solved by philosophy, literature, history and science. (I ha…

> cured in a single session of hypnotherapy by a guy

If you were cured by attending a hypnotherapy session by the guy who wrote the book rather than by reading the book I don't see how it supports your assertion (or what I think is your assertion: that self help books at least sometimes are better than the philosophy, etc., books). I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong, just that it doesn't follow.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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Not all books are good.

Your learning comes from the experiences of your life. Reading a good book is like learning someone else’s life.

...That’s why a truly great fiction book may be worth 100x a truly great non-fiction book.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

#179

Online content is often low-quality, highly commercial in nature and very ephemeral. Books, the real kind, when they are good can stay with you for a very long time. A well-written story, be it fiction or non-fiction can have a long lastig impact and even an emotional connection that I have personally never experienced with anything 'online'. If you don't read books, you are missing out. Even only 1 or 2 books a year…

There are short, easy to read non-fiction books too. It's easy to get through What We Know about Climate Change or Particle Physics, A Very Short Introduction in an evening.

Re: Ask HN: Are books worth it?

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Most books don't age well, you're correct. Which is why you should read old books. Old books that are still around today are actually the few that were good enough to keep around. The crappy books from back then have long since aged out and been forgotten.

Meanwhile the "bleeding edge" is still so new, that the crap hasn't aged out of it yet, so your good-to-crap ratio is going to be lower. And while I'm on the subject of crap, don't read too much self-help - not that it's necessarily crap, but being a motivational type thing, it tends to be, essentially, a sales pitch - either for the ideas in the book itself, or possibly for more cynical things such as ancillary product$ or other book$, or for the author's cult of personality. That sort of thing will tend to be, as you said, filled with disconnected fluff/anecdotes/stories etc.

Though at the same time I had to laugh that you complained that "... books ... were mostly filled with ... stories." Yep they sure are! Done right, a story is sometimes the best way to tell something. Problems can be solved obliquely don'tcha know. You might learn more about "How to Win Friends and Influence People" (to pick a classic self-help title) by reading something like Dostoyevsky (though I wouldn't recommend that as a first try).

Get you some fiction. A book that captures something of the universal essence of being human, that's a book that can transcend time, and that's why, again, somebody and a bunch of other somebodies decided to keep reprinting or republishing it. Find a book or an author you believe in, that you consider worth it. Because that was your question. It's partly a self-fulfilling answer. Are books worth it? Read some books and find out.

Any time you skim something, you are putting yourself above the author, making yourself their editor essentially, deciding which parts of what they wrote, needed to actually be written and which parts can be skipped. You're probably not even reading this now, huh fucker? Ha, got you. Seriously though, find an author you can trust, and then surrender to them and their book more. Instead of thinking you know best what can be skipped, actually assume the author knows what they're doing, and wrote all those words on purpose. That won't work if you don't trust them, and it won't work if the author is no good (i.e. can't be trusted).

I bet this approach will also make you, to a surprising degree, remember stuff, whereas before, you (maybe correctly) surmised that nothing in the book was particularly important. You probably had yourself a crap writer right there, that's what that was.

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