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Fresh Cambridge Analytica leak ‘shows global manipulation is out of control’

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"intelligence expert behind the so-called “Steele dossier” into Trump’s relationship with Russia"

A political opponent (with the help of a political party..and possibly a president) worked with a foreign government to dig up dirt on an opponent and affect the 2016 election. It didn't work, but the deed has been done.

It's scary that a political party can get away with this with impunity.

If it would have worked, would we even be seeing anything about it?

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> There’s evidence of really quite disturbing experiments on American voters, manipulating them with fear-based messaging, targeting the most vulnerable, that seems to be continuing.

Ironically, it's not clear which party they re referring to

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Is there anyone seeing people reflect increased skepticism of internet sourced information following this stuff? Like, I learned in HS to discount the validity and value of “stuff I read on the internet” to 0 until I could verify if through alternate sources.

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post #3

> There’s evidence of really quite disturbing experiments on American voters, manipulating them with fear-based messaging, targeting the most vulnerable, that seems to be continuing. Ironically, it's not clear which party they re referring to

Isn't she explicitly not referring to only one party? If she is, why is it ironic that it's not clear which?

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post #4

Is there anyone seeing people reflect increased skepticism of internet sourced information following this stuff? Like, I learned in HS to discount the validity and value of “stuff I read on the internet” to 0 until I could verify if through alternate sources.

But this is also a means to attack people. For example, what alternative sources. Are they also compromised? This falls under the Bullshit Asymmetry attack.

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post #4

Is there anyone seeing people reflect increased skepticism of internet sourced information following this stuff? Like, I learned in HS to discount the validity and value of “stuff I read on the internet” to 0 until I could verify if through alternate sources.

I saw people express skepticism before this stuff, that is part of why this is effective. It partly depends upon there being low trust in "sources of truth". Want to know the funny thing? The people that eroded the trust are now the ones complaining the loudest about the results.

Also, why does sex sell? Because people desire sex.

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post #3

> There’s evidence of really quite disturbing experiments on American voters, manipulating them with fear-based messaging, targeting the most vulnerable, that seems to be continuing. Ironically, it's not clear which party they re referring to

Nothing ironic about everyone doing it.

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post #6
post #4

Is there anyone seeing people reflect increased skepticism of internet sourced information following this stuff? Like, I learned in HS to discount the validity and value of “stuff I read on the internet” to 0 until I could verify if through alternate sources.

But this is also a means to attack people. For example, what alternative sources. Are they also compromised? This falls under the Bullshit Asymmetry attack.

If you do enough research through multiple, reputable sources trends do emerge. If someone says something radical like the president is a lizard person and every news outlet is pretty convinced he was born in the US to human parents then it’s safe to work with the understanding that he’s a human-as a silly example to illustrate the concept.

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post #4

Is there anyone seeing people reflect increased skepticism of internet sourced information following this stuff? Like, I learned in HS to discount the validity and value of “stuff I read on the internet” to 0 until I could verify if through alternate sources.

I saw people express skepticism before this stuff, that is part of why this is effective. It partly depends upon there being low trust in "sources of truth". Want to know the funny thing? The people that eroded the trust are now the ones complaining the loudest about the results. Also, why does sex sell? Because people desire sex.

Yep, that’s what keeps me up at night. I’ve had family express their individual preference for sources with zero credibility or authority over sources from medical doctors/phds/other reputable sources. They’re predisposed to believe manipulative stuff and prefer it!
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