Live data from Hacker News

Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

hbr.org

21–30 of 124 posts

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#21

Please, someone tell the geniuses at Harvard business that no one ever used "Move Fast, break things" for chips. Having been in the industry long enough, I've seen plenty a launch date moved, and chip-respins executed in favor of risking a recall of hardware from the field. It's only non-critical, consumer/casual software/applications that can afford to move fast, and break things. Your bank, or medical records, or e…

Last October the U.S. Military replaced the eight 1970s floppy disks controlling all nuclear missiles.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/10/19/us-milita...

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#22
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It worked for the 5% survivors.

If you have a 5% chance of becoming a billionaire and a 95% chance of walking away from a failed startup with minor debts and lost time, the math says that your expected value for moving fast and breaking things is still quite high. Of course, if you step outside yourself and also consider the downsides of failure for your employees, your investors, your customers, and the harm that a fast-and-loose approach could do…

There's no 5% chance of becoming billionaire, but of building a business that survives beyond 2 years, probably with lots of hard work, investment and learnings from past failures.

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#23

Sadly the author doesn't understand what iterating quickly means. It's not a means of achieving greater performance in a known area, but a means of finding something that works in an unknown space. So the completely opposite argumentation would've worked. For the last 10+ years we spent iterating over several startups to find how to use this new technology of mobile and internet, and now that we have found most reaso…

Well put. Concise.

I will quibble though on the "now we can slow down and optimize them" part.

What's happening in practice is that those startups who "lucked" into successes playing the risky-but-many game of mobile & internet technology... those startups now focus on defending their "moats" and optimising their revenue streams.

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#24

Please, someone tell the geniuses at Harvard business that no one ever used "Move Fast, break things" for chips. Having been in the industry long enough, I've seen plenty a launch date moved, and chip-respins executed in favor of risking a recall of hardware from the field. It's only non-critical, consumer/casual software/applications that can afford to move fast, and break things. Your bank, or medical records, or e…

The geniuses at HBR never claimed in the article that it applies to chips. The article says that increase in chip performance lead to a prevalent strategy in business (mainly tech) to be the first.

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#25

Sadly the author doesn't understand what iterating quickly means. It's not a means of achieving greater performance in a known area, but a means of finding something that works in an unknown space. So the completely opposite argumentation would've worked. For the last 10+ years we spent iterating over several startups to find how to use this new technology of mobile and internet, and now that we have found most reaso…

Nowhere in the article has the author claimed that. :/

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#26
post #6

My answer would be: as the things are so broken, that I sometimes wonder how anything still works. Flawed cpus, memory, motherboards, operating systems, hardware, not to even go into userspace/web software full of lasigna frameworks that are buggy as hell even on then own and once you put all that into gulash called modern software... Its a small miracle on its own.

It seems miraculous because people calling stuff "broken" on the internet are often greatly exaggerating

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#27
I don't think it ever worked that well, but I have also always followed a different muse than the current zeitgeist.

I think that SpaceX is living proof that you can move very fast indeed, without breaking things.

As we well know, they do, very rarely, break things (with great video), but when that happens; it only happens once.

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#28
post #11

I think the big issue with companies like Facebook is not that their development model moves too quickly for them to be able to react to their issues but that they simply don’t care. Facebook has known about the issues with privacy, hyper targeted advertising etc for years. You don’t need to move very fast to react to a fundamental issue in that timeframe.

Areas where big companies don't care are often ripe for new disruptive products. Google's success can largely be attributed to building a feature that the 400 pound gorilla of the time (yahoo) didn't give a fuck about.

consumers need to care as well, and that is/was the issue for privacy or ethical behavior. I hope we got passed that point, but it sure takes a damn long time.

Re: Why “Move Fast and Break Things” Doesn’t Work Anymore

#30
post #11

I think the big issue with companies like Facebook is not that their development model moves too quickly for them to be able to react to their issues but that they simply don’t care. Facebook has known about the issues with privacy, hyper targeted advertising etc for years. You don’t need to move very fast to react to a fundamental issue in that timeframe.

You call it an issue. We call it a revenue stream.
Post reply on HN