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Re: How strong is your knot?

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My list of favorite knots: 1. Square Knot / Reef Knot -- This is the shoelace tie, and its one of the simplest knots. Learn this knot backwards and forwards you'll use it a lot. Avoid the granny knot (a mistaken reef knot). Beginners will often tie the granny knot instead of the square knot. If you can do a square knot, the "Surgeon Knot" is a useful variant which is more secure. 2. Figure Eight -- Superior to the ov…

2. False. (Double) overhand aka euro death knot is superior for joining two ends of rappel line due to its smaller profile - lower probably of getting jammed on pull

The overhand [1] and double overhand are quite different knots. Actually, since you specify that you mean the "Euro Death Knot", it is actually a "flat overhand bend" [2].

The parent's statement is not false, it's just that one must be precise about naming, because casual use leads to incorrect assumptions by others.

Other than that, yes, you are correct.

* [1] https://www.animatedknots.com/overhand-knot * [2] https://www.animatedknots.com/flat-overhand-bend-knot

Re: How strong is your knot?

#93
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You use a bowline for life-safety in rescue operations? That's really unusual, in my experience (firefighter/rescue tech in upstate New York)

I volunteer for a lifesaving organization in Germany and the bowline is one of the most important knots there. One example is diving, where the diver is secured by a bowline around his hip.

Interesting... Around here if divers are working off a line, they're tagged in with a short lead to the mainline. The lead will have carabiners on either end that are either factory stitched in place, or clipped into a figure-eight. Those aren't meant to be under any tension though, they're just for maintaining orientation.

If a diver is attached to an actual haul line (not common, but happens in swift-water recuse scenarios), then they're going to be clipped in via a carabiner, which is tied on with a double-loop figure-eight. The double-loop figure-eight is the standard "if your life is gonna depend on it" knot around here.

(I am not a rescue diver, but do support dive operations from time to time)

Re: How strong is your knot?

#96
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I have a knot problem that I think pretty much everyone has encountered. How do you tie a bundle of branches or a cardboard box or something compressible as tightly as possible? The first way everyone tries is to cross the rope like you would for shoelaces, then putting pressure on the crossed rope with your finger, and trying to cross the ends of the rope with your one free hand to finish the knot. Inevitably the kn…

The knot your looking for is the gleipnir knot:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxxhg-tf8Ug

It’s a recently invented knot that works extremely well for bundling irregular objects

Re: How strong is your knot?

#97

I’m curious what this would look like tying dress shoes with a Berluti knot.[0] (I don’t think this knot is in the ABOK, but I could be wrong.[1]) 0. https://www.hangerproject.com/blog/2018/01/12/berluti-knot-t... 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashley_Book_of_Knots

I've tied my shoes very similar to that for many years. The only difference is I only pull the bunny ears through the hole. Not the lace ends.

https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Re: How strong is your knot?

#98
post #65

I have a knot problem that I think pretty much everyone has encountered. How do you tie a bundle of branches or a cardboard box or something compressible as tightly as possible? The first way everyone tries is to cross the rope like you would for shoelaces, then putting pressure on the crossed rope with your finger, and trying to cross the ends of the rope with your one free hand to finish the knot. Inevitably the kn…

I second the suggestion of a trucker's hitch. A ratcheting knot can be useful in this situation, but IMO what you're really after is a mechanical advantage. The trucker's hitch gives you a mechanical advantage by using a loop in the rope as a pulley. There are a number of ways to make the loop and it doesn't really matter which one you use. This video gives a pretty nice explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTYwsfnsXg

Once you cinch the load down using your mechanical advantage, you can use any number of knots (ratcheting or not) to secure it.

Re: How strong is your knot?

#99
post #20

My favorite, as many others are sharing here, is the figure 8. For climbing, it's a super versatile knot and there's lots of variations for specific use cases. It's also a great knot for discussing the properties of a good knot. I also have found the trucker's hitch really useful from time to time. It allows you to tie down a load, for example a kayak on top of a car. You tie the initial hitch, and then you get to cr…

The two loop shoelace knot almost qualifies as life changing. Such a small change to something I learned as a child makes such a big difference. Not only do your shoes not come undone, but they don't loosen.

I use "Ian's knot" to tie my shoes [0]. I was so excited when I first learnt this, it is very quick to do and I like that the two loops of the tied shoelace sit flat and straight on the show. Works great for short laces, and never had a problem coming undone.

[0] https://youtu.be/_O-xaJrao1w

Re: How strong is your knot?

#100
post #65

I have a knot problem that I think pretty much everyone has encountered. How do you tie a bundle of branches or a cardboard box or something compressible as tightly as possible? The first way everyone tries is to cross the rope like you would for shoelaces, then putting pressure on the crossed rope with your finger, and trying to cross the ends of the rope with your one free hand to finish the knot. Inevitably the kn…

I second the suggestion of a trucker's hitch. A ratcheting knot can be useful in this situation, but IMO what you're really after is a mechanical advantage. The trucker's hitch gives you a mechanical advantage by using a loop in the rope as a pulley. There are a number of ways to make the loop and it doesn't really matter which one you use. This video gives a pretty nice explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r…

I also love the truckers' hitch. The key benefit is the tautline hitch that makes it easy to tighten. But sometimes I use an alpine butterfly loop and tautline hitch. I think that it's stronger.
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