The sooner we push China over the edge to collapse the better
s/China/USA/ and watch everyone lose their shit, point being that everything is subjective. On a serious note, China is going nowhere.
What is your point?
Chinese Olympic ski team requested a Norway public library to remove books
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#12> "They have said that if any of the Chinese skiers are caught with these books, they are afraid that they would risk being sent to labor camp or prison in China." So don't go to the library and check out those exact books, then.
Highly doubtful of this being the actual words being spoken. Likely translated from incentivized reporting. Getting in trouble? Sure. labor camp? If they existed past 2015 they’re highly unlikely to exist in official language.
Re: Chinese Olympic ski team requested a Norway public library to remove books
#13tldr; Norway library politely tells Chinese book banners to go fuck themselves. Good. China's leaders need more push back in their overreach in censoring content around the world.
It's not always easy if large amounts of money is involved especially for small countries.
It's one thing to hold countries' feet over the fire over international conventions and other generally agreed upon conventions but this is basically international freedom of speech.
Imagine if Japan demanded that China take down books about Nanjin/Nanking when Japan was ascendant and China was weak...
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#14Something is fishy about this story. Why would a sports team in town for training care what is in the local library? Even if they went there, surely the team members would be well aware that drawing attention to a taboo subject has no personal upside.
The librarian they quoted doesn't actually say that anyone associated with the team brought it up, and speaking of that interview, where did the reporter get this story idea from in the first place? Seems more likely that someone else is showing some faux concern to attract attention.
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#15“We have had three different inquiries from individuals who have asked us to remove that book. Two to three other books are also mentioned from our collection. They have said that if any of the Chinese skiers are caught with these books, they are afraid that they would risk being sent to labor camp or prison in China,”
So.. is this like your kid's friend asking you to hide some books when he and his brother visit, because if his dad finds out his brother glanced at that book, the dad will beat him up? I.e. they know they live in a shitty regime, but they're helpless about it, and could you just help them avoid the wrath of the regime?
It'd be funnier if the library removed the books and put up a sign explaining the reason and questioning what sort of life do you live if the regime is afraid about this, but I'm guessing many Chinese do actually think Falun Gong is like a virus that you must avoid learning about, because if you learn about them then your mind will be broken, so Chairman Pooh is actually just protecting them!
Re: Chinese Olympic ski team requested a Norway public library to remove books
#16Something is fishy about this story. Why would a sports team in town for training care what is in the local library? Even if they went there, surely the team members would be well aware that drawing attention to a taboo subject has no personal upside. The librarian they quoted doesn't actually say that anyone associated with the team brought it up, and speaking of that interview, where did the reporter get this story…
Interesting point. Maybe a Chinese student living in the city has come across the books and thought the visit would be a good excuse to get the books to disappear.
Interestingly they'll probably moan about the city needing to be good hosts and cater to their guests' wishes, and maybe there'll be tantrum thrown about the Norwegians being rude and offensive...
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#17The sooner we push China over the edge to collapse the better
Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome here, regardless of which nation you have a problem with. Please don't post like this to Hacker News again.
Re: Chinese Olympic ski team requested a Norway public library to remove books
#18Something is fishy about this story. Why would a sports team in town for training care what is in the local library? Even if they went there, surely the team members would be well aware that drawing attention to a taboo subject has no personal upside. The librarian they quoted doesn't actually say that anyone associated with the team brought it up, and speaking of that interview, where did the reporter get this story…
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
s/China/USA/ and watch everyone lose their shit, point being that everything is subjective. On a serious note, China is going nowhere.
What is your point?
Considering a nation as a supervillain is subjective. For someone touched by the US' past horrible foreign policies, the answer is not China for example.
Re: Chinese Olympic ski team requested a Norway public library to remove books
#20“We have had three different inquiries from individuals who have asked us to remove that book. Two to three other books are also mentioned from our collection. They have said that if any of the Chinese skiers are caught with these books, they are afraid that they would risk being sent to labor camp or prison in China,” So.. is this like your kid's friend asking you to hide some books when he and his brother visit, be…
They could just move it to the Reference section, making it available to read but not check out.