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If you live in Australia, what is this doing in terms of changing what people think and do about climate change? Is it motivating personal changes in diet, traveling and election voting choices? If this nightmare scenario isn't enough to push people into taking action, what will?
I heard that earlier efforts in the year to do controlled burns were protested against by activists and thus paused and could’ve contributed to the extent of the fires now.
This is misinformation happily spread by the Australian media, who are hand in hand with the fossil fuel and forestry lobbiests. The Australian green party has supported hazard reduction burning for many years. The activists you mention have had pretty much zero influence on what hazard reduction has been done. The current government cut the budget for the fire service so drastically that they lost about 60% of the q…
Also seems like the Australian media supported the protestors:
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/01/abc-deleting-facebook-posts...
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What's the standard of living of being on fire?
We won't know until the bushfire season ends. There are people who've lost their homes, are in dire straits and need support. But the raw numbers are not doing the same sort of damage as a 10% increase in general energy costs. So far it has been 1,516 homes. Australia will have something like 5,000,000 homes. That is bad, but entirely tolerable averaged over the continent - we build about that many homes in a month o…
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> the costs of de-carbonising the economy Global warming is important, but only one environmental problem, so important to consider here, but not the only environmental issue. Contributing to every environmental issue, including this one, is overpopulation. Humans have altered every continent, reducing biodiversity, introducing species that don't handle local climates as well, or too well and displace existing ones,…
> Contributing to every environmental issue, including this one, is overpopulation. Citation needed. Why is 7.7 billion people a problem? IMHO earth as it is today can accommodate 9 or 10 billion people without problems. (And like you, I have no citation as well.)
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> We need something akin to civil rights movement. On the global scale. We also need someone other than Greta as the face of it. While she does a great job, she's often dismissed due to her age and the US president has even publicly called her retarded in the literal sense.
Anyone who becomes the face of this will be relentlessly smeared, with no regard for reality. People in the streets is probably what you need.
"Throw another shrimp on the barbie", he said. "No worries, mate. It'll be fine", he said... FYI - I'm an Aussie born and bred, and part of our culture is to laugh at ourselves, even during the hard times. That's how Australians stay so resilient through hardship.
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We won't know until the bushfire season ends. There are people who've lost their homes, are in dire straits and need support. But the raw numbers are not doing the same sort of damage as a 10% increase in general energy costs. So far it has been 1,516 homes. Australia will have something like 5,000,000 homes. That is bad, but entirely tolerable averaged over the continent - we build about that many homes in a month o…
How many peoples health has deteriorated due to inhaling particulates from the fires - what was the cost? How many man-hours have been spent fighting the fires? How many cancelled film shoots, or other outdoor events? How much tourism revenue was lost? The list is endless. Looking just at the number of homes seems very narrow - there's a myriad of costs (direct and indirect)
Even now, in the midst of unprecedented heat, drought and fire that has gripped this continent for months, if not years, "friends" of mine regularly post the most ignorant climate denialist BS on FB.
[1] https://reneweconomy.com.au/cop25-talks-labelled-lost-opport...
I heard that earlier efforts in the year to do controlled burns were protested against by activists and thus paused and could’ve contributed to the extent of the fires now.
This is misinformation happily spread by the Australian media, who are hand in hand with the fossil fuel and forestry lobbiests. The Australian green party has supported hazard reduction burning for many years. The activists you mention have had pretty much zero influence on what hazard reduction has been done. The current government cut the budget for the fire service so drastically that they lost about 60% of the q…
> But, according to our glorious leader, we should not worry, stay calm and watch the cricket.
Ironic, in that last I heard, several big matches were being canceled due to the weather...
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> Which ones do you have in mind specifically? It's almost easier to ask the inverse, what modern "crowd movement" has had lasting effects at all? I'm thinking of big ones like Occupy, or Remain, or the Women's Marches, or Extinction Rebellion for really recent. What actual, tangible change did they directly effect? What concrete legislation? The US civil rights movement actually ultimately resulted in the enormous C…
One might say Extinction Rebellion is still too young to be judged on lasting effects, isn't it? Also, getting arrested and going to prison is not something I would call a feel-good effort.