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Ditch Starbucks and work at the library

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Re: Ditch Starbucks and work at the library

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Great point. For the less mature, I think the library helps strip away the pretense a bit too. Sipping lattes and being on Twitter seem to go together. Being at the library and doing real work seem to go together too.

Re: Ditch Starbucks and work at the library

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No. A bunch of people tried that over the last couple years in Chicago; all of them went bust. There are too many viable alternatives to "rental cubby" to charge enough. And coffee shops of all forms are almost sure-fire money losers.

And coffee shops of all forms are almost sure-fire money losers. I'd never heard that before. Is Starbucks an exception? Does their volume make the difference?

I'd bet it has to do with space, if you're in the rental business, you need more of it- and it's expensive. If you're Starbucks, you do your feasibility calculations without assuming you'll get worker-cubby rental money.

Re: Ditch Starbucks and work at the library

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Starbucks still charges for WiFi? I thought they did away with that. In any case, I always got around it by pretending to be an iPhone. :)

WiFi has been free at Starbucks in the USA since July 2010. Before that, a registered Starbucks card got you free WiFi.

Re: Ditch Starbucks and work at the library

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I wonder if there's a market for a coffee shop that has small, private office spaces available, perhaps available for free or for an hourly rent. These might be the size of a typical restaurant booth (or a bit larger), but would be enclosed spaces that allow you to block out noise and distractions. It wouldn't even need to be a coffee shop; maybe something like a capsule hotel for workspaces.

No. A bunch of people tried that over the last couple years in Chicago; all of them went bust. There are too many viable alternatives to "rental cubby" to charge enough. And coffee shops of all forms are almost sure-fire money losers.

Coffee shops are pretty much the opposite of sure-fire money losers. This article is a few years old, but:

The failure rate for new coffeehouses is a mere 10 percent, according to the market research firm Mintel, which means the vast majority of cafes stay afloat no matter where Starbucks drops its stores. Compare that to the restaurant business, where failure is the norm.

- http://www.slate.com/id/2180301/pagenum/all/#page_start

There's a reason you can find coffee shops--both franchised and independent--everywhere you go. Selling $.16 of coffee for $4 is quite profitable!

Re: Ditch Starbucks and work at the library

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And don't let you have coffee.

That sucks; you can have coffee in the Chicago and Oak Park libraries.

The library in Quebec city won't even let you have a bottle of water open on your table, forget coffee.
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