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Wildfires Are Raging Outside Every Major City in Australia

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Each serial killer has a miniscule effect on the overall crime rate, so it's stupid to have any kind of moral expectation for them to stop!

Yes, if I were in charge of reducing the crime rate, that is probably the stupidest way I could go about it.

The solution is obviously to punish and prevent all crimes even if none of them individually have much of an impact.

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It's sad to see how these fires are automatically linked to climate change. Until the mid 2000's Australia burned down small patches of forests to prevent large disasters like these we have now. But that changed when burning down forests (mind you to prevent larger forest fires in the future) were deemed too bad for the environment. So now the policies and fire prevention techniques changed (for the worse) and exactl…

The policies have not changed. The fire department has said the weather has been too dry for too long and they are unable to do controlled burns like they used to.

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Much of Australia's coal is burned in China. Germany is a literal "black spot" in that the coal industry still has political muscle there, despite Germany's otherwise relatively strong (but still very much minority) green movement.

They [Germany] got rid of their environmentally friendly nuclear reactors in favour of burning more coal after Fukishima. They're doing a bit of solar but are burning ever more and more coal.

Yeah, this was in my opinion an overreaction. The calculus for building a new reactor (expensive, time consuming) versus keeping an existing one going is very different.

On the other hand, Germany had already experienced the Chernobyl cloud.

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I heard that earlier efforts in the year to do controlled burns were protested against by activists and thus paused and could’ve contributed to the extent of the fires now.

Everything is fine. This is just fire mismanagement and is in no way indicative of a climate crisis. /s

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I heard that earlier efforts in the year to do controlled burns were protested against by activists and thus paused and could’ve contributed to the extent of the fires now.

Elsewhere in the discussion sometime posted a link to an article debunking that common misconception from a number of angles.

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I heard that earlier efforts in the year to do controlled burns were protested against by activists and thus paused and could’ve contributed to the extent of the fires now.

Everything is fine. This is just fire mismanagement and is in no way indicative of a climate crisis. /s

It can be both

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If you live in Australia, what is this doing in terms of changing what people think and do about climate change? Is it motivating personal changes in diet, traveling and election voting choices? If this nightmare scenario isn't enough to push people into taking action, what will?

Can only speak from my personal circles but the current bushfires aren't having a direct impact on personal responsibility (those who were interested were already interested; those that weren't still aren't). We just had a political cycle where the Labor party lost on (among many reasons) a more climate-change focused agenda in the federal election, so we won't know for another three years if there is any any voter b…

> so we won't know for another three years if there is any any voter backlash

Labour will say your taxes will increase, liberals will promise more tax cuts and everyone will vote for Liberal again.

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If you live in Australia, what is this doing in terms of changing what people think and do about climate change? Is it motivating personal changes in diet, traveling and election voting choices? If this nightmare scenario isn't enough to push people into taking action, what will?

The elections have already happened in May, and people have rejected the Labor party who was pushing for climate change reforms. I suspect if the elections were to happen now, things might be different. Lots of people have directly or indirectly (thanks to heavy smog) suffered from the wildfires, moreso than previous summers.

> and people have rejected the Labor party who was pushing for climate change reforms.

Labor were also saying that taxes will increase, I think that is the major factor for their loss.

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