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Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by joejerryronnie »

antepodius wrote: post #577
joejerryronnie wrote: post #222

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In a sense, you are already virtualizing your workspace in macintosh-chic :) Perhaps your coworkers would be required to execute a perfect Japanese tea ceremony before interrupting you.

What's the deal with this videogamey bullshit you're proposing? Why would anyone want to participate in this? First thing I'm doing is installing an adblocker/augblocker to byoass this sort of thing.

Dude, it’s to prevent people from interrupting you when you’re trying to work. It would literally be designed to keep shitty coworkers like you away from my desk.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by nl »

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #549
redisman wrote: post #506

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I guess there's no reason veggie meat wouldn't become much cheaper than real meat. It takes a lot less resources to grow a bushel of soy or wheat or GMO super-grain than a quarter pound of a cow.

It takes basically no resources to graze cattle on grasslands. Plus, as a bonus it sequesters carbon and creates topsoil.

Grass fed cattle produces more methane than grain fed thoug (and methane is a much worse greenhouse gas).

But it does (possibly) help sequesters carbon.

The truth is that it's hard to tell which is better, but neither is great environmentally.

it’s hard to say whether grass-fed or grain-fed beef is better for the Earth – in part because they’re both pretty bad.

“No matter how you slice it,” he wrote, “eating beef will never be the greenest thing you do in a day.”

He cites an estimate by the National Institute of Livestock and Grassland Science in Japan that producing 2.2 pounds of beef emits more greenhouse gases than driving 155 miles.

Oregon Department of Environmental Quality’s study of the greenhouse gas emissions associated with consumption in Oregon found red meat and dairy products have the highest carbon footprint of all the foods Oregonians eat.[1]

(Needless to say the Cattlemen’s Association dispute these, and claim it only (?) produces 2.8% of greenhouse gases in the US).

[1] https://www.opb.org/news/blog/ecotrope/which-is-greener-gras...

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by Erlich_Bachman »

puranjay wrote: post #560
fnord77 wrote: post #442

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the trend of the world has been to decrease transaction friction and costs. Crypto increases both. And moving to crypto is like going back on the gold standard. No way to expand or contract monetary supply.

I had to make a payment in Bitcoin for the first time in years. I honestly can't see the average person dealing with this complexity. Even the basic math is hard to grasp for the average Joe. Try asking a normal person to quickly add 0.0005 to 0.0461. The former was the fees for my transaction.

Which wallet forced you to do the math in your head? Don't they all just display the result of that calculation as the total transaction cost?

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by kortilla »

throwlaplace wrote: post #92
kortilla wrote: post #87

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> free health-care and tertiary education. Probably because there is no such thing. The people who vote against them realize that you’re still paying for them via taxes and that you’ll be destroying the entire market. Destroying the market with the best healthcare research and the market with much of the best academic research shouldn’t be taken lightly.

in your effort to reiterate a cliche you've completely missed my point. nationalized health care has broad support: https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/412545-70-... and yet we can't get organized enough to pass it.

And in your effort to repeat dogma, you’ve missed mine. Support for a vague notion of nationalizing healthcare. In that article you linked it’s only 42 percent strongly supporting it. The rest is “somewhat” or worse.

Someone who “somewhat” supports Medicare for all doesn’t really like the actual proposed implementation. With less than a majority strongly supporting it, are you really surprised?

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by kamaal »

puranjay wrote: post #562
pgodzin wrote: post #505

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> 3. Why Fred thinks China won't have the same short term self-interest that every other country does seems fanciful at best. I think the reason would be that most countries that make short-term decisions are ones that have democratic elections every few years and need to avoid pissing off too many people. China's authoritarian system may have more leeway with short-term pain for longer-term strategic initiatives not…

Our evidence from the 20th century shows that the only countries that are successful are democratic. The list of authoritarian countries that crashed and burned is longer than the list of democratic countries that did the same.

China is a kind of democracy and a very meritorious one at that already.

Just because they aren't copy cat 100% clone of US/UK democracy, it doesn't mean they aren't a democracy.

Also countries like Great Britain, France and all other big European powers made bulk of their super power status when ruled by Monarchs. The democracies later carried the inertia of those eras. Which is understandable. Once you build a sound educational ecosystem, with a great economy with an industrialized economic base, democracy works like a charm. There is a long term supply of good leaders and educated masses to vote for them.

Also democracy is not a process designed to produce good leaders. It's only a process that elects them in a system where they are already present, with a populace that can recognize.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by uxcolumbo »

chukye wrote: post #411
uxcolumbo wrote: post #285

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RE: The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets Do you have any studies that back up your claim that humans need meat to live a healthy life? Several governmental bodies worldwide state[1] that one can live healthy using a plant based diet and The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine[0] even recommend a plant based diet for good health and disease prevention. Did you know B12 is…

I'm sorry, here are some articles that supports me when I say that plant-based diet are not good for your health: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed…

Thanks. But none of those articles say that a plant based diet is not good for your health and that you need to eat meat instead. Your last link about mental disorders for example even says there is no evidence that a plant based diet causes mental disorders and it even states "vegetarians are in good physical health".

I would recommend to read these articles properly next time and not make generalised statements like you've done.

You can live a healthy live without meat or dairy products.

We can't feed the whole world using a meat heavy diet as it's just too resource intensive and destructive to the environment. A shift to a more plant based diet is inevitable - that's why I'm thankful to people like Ethan Brown and his team working on meat alternatives that are as good or better than animal meat - to make this transition easier for people who just can't give up animal meat.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by lwhi »

mekster wrote: post #449
throwaway5752 wrote: post #61

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Time is running out: please help the Internet Archive today. The average donation is $45. If everyone chips in $5, we can keep our website independent, strong and ad-free. That's right, all we need is the price of a paperback book to sustain a non-profit library the whole world depends on. We have only 150 staff but run one of the world’s top websites. We’re dedicated to reader privacy so we never track you. We never…

Why do they need 150 people to run a non interactive site? I'm not against anything about them but if they want donations, their way of expense should be clearer.

They provide an archive of THE INTERNET!

Please forgive my pithy comment, but the size of the task goes someway to explaining the size of the workforce in my mind.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by uxcolumbo »

chukye wrote: post #419
uxcolumbo wrote: post #285

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RE: The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets Do you have any studies that back up your claim that humans need meat to live a healthy life? Several governmental bodies worldwide state[1] that one can live healthy using a plant based diet and The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine[0] even recommend a plant based diet for good health and disease prevention. Did you know B12 is…

btw, please don't do like these guys https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/14/vegan-parents-starved-toddler... feed your babies with meat, we don't have technology (yet) to eat only plants.

This is one isolated case of parents who were probably quite dogmatic and ill informed and they were fruitarians - mainly eating raw food, so probably not living on a well-balanced diet.

The article even states that a vegan or vegetarian diet is fine for kids[0]. So again please read articles properly next time and don't make generalised statements based one some headlines you read.

[0] "Babies and young children on a vegetarian or vegan diet can get the energy and most of the nutrients they need to grow and develop from a well-planned varied and balanced diet."

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by lwhi »

terryf wrote: post #565
SllX wrote: post #356

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As someone who isn’t considering giving up my ways, red blooded meat eating American that I am, I actually appreciate vegans to some degree. As long as there are an appreciable number of them, I will enjoy a greater variety of dishes and ingredients available to me, and oftentimes fresher ingredients too. Insofar as they are making choices that benefit them, they also make choices that benefit me. Where they lose me,…

This is probably the most balanced comment about meat-eating I've ever read. I think the tax thing is key - I eat meat and I fly a lot. I know both of those things contribute to the climate crisis - therefore I'd be completely ok with paying some more money as tax that goes towards offsetting the environmental damage from those activities. Lots of people think we needs to go back in development of technology and stop…

I think the main issue is that money alone won't stop the greenhouse gasses from entering the atmosphere.

We just need to stop flying so much, and stop eating as much meat.

It's unfortunate and inconvenient.

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