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Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

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Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

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post #20

This patent was filed 2007 and granted 2012, so the title should say (2012).

The patent page states it the patent became active 2020-01-01

There seems to be a weird bug on the Google Patents site. I've noticed that the expiration date of a patent is always the day I visit the site, even for patents I know expired a while ago. This may be something like that.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would Google pay to enforce a patent it doesn't own?

It looks like it's a person (not a company) that owns the patent too, so unless this person is a m/billionaire a court case doesn't even sound that bad.

All patents are granted to people not companies. The people may then assign to a company the right to enforce the patent.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#33

I’d love to see a charity formed for the sole purpose of challenging these patents in courts. Crowdfunding can go a long way, and strategic legal wins can go a long way in shaping precedence. Many organizations dabble in these challenges, but it needs a singular purpose.

These joke patents are relatively harmless. The real problem is the "good patents" which can actually be enforced and used to stifle competition.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#34
post #14

What does this mean for apps like Anki (assuming they’re not the ones who own this patent)?

If I understand correctly this patent is only active in the USA. Anki is based on SuperMemo-2 and they freely admit it. SuperMemo (based in Poland) has pretty liberal licensing: https://www.supermemo.com/en/blog/licensing-and-copyrighting... I can't see this patent holding up unless it's for a very specific flashcard system. There is prior art on flashcards going back to the 19th century.

Once a patent is granted, it is very hard to fight the patent using prior art as evidence.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#35
post #9

How brain dead or just checked out are patent office clerks that patents like this are granted.

My friend was a patent clerk. She is pretty sharp. She explained that rules make it much more time-consuming to deny an application than to grant it or coach the applicant on changes they need to make in order to win a grant. Something about needing to explicitly refute each claim. Further, clerks are given quotas on how many patents they must review a week. It’s a pretty crushing load, so the system favors grants.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#37
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The patent page states it the patent became active 2020-01-01

There seems to be a weird bug on the Google Patents site. I've noticed that the expiration date of a patent is always the day I visit the site, even for patents I know expired a while ago. This may be something like that.

It's not wrong but it is confusing – it's showing you what its current status is, which should be shown somewhere else than in the timeline.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#38
post #18

Don't look at the title. At a glance, the claims looks like a very specific implementation of a flashcard application, which does not seem to be relevant to the current flashcard apps. Did I miss something?

The first three paragraphs of claim 1 describe every flashcard application ever made. As far as I can tell, the "novel" part of the invention being claimed is the fourth paragraph, namely the concept of displaying multiple cards on the screen at the same time.

IMO, that's still an extremely broad concept to be granted a patent on.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#39
post #9

How brain dead or just checked out are patent office clerks that patents like this are granted.

My friend was a patent clerk. She is pretty sharp. She explained that rules make it much more time-consuming to deny an application than to grant it or coach the applicant on changes they need to make in order to win a grant. Something about needing to explicitly refute each claim. Further, clerks are given quotas on how many patents they must review a week. It’s a pretty crushing load, so the system favors grants.

This just pushes the validation of a patent into the courts, and at a much higher cost than properly researching its validity from the beginning.

Re: Patent: Electronic flashcards (2013)

#40
post #9

How brain dead or just checked out are patent office clerks that patents like this are granted.

I'd imagine there's an art to making the application wordy and confusing enough to slip through.

The language used for describing patents is not quite English, in some ways it's a bit like a programming language, you can sort of create variables, arrays (the first X, the second X, ...), subroutine calls (even recursive calls provided they don't recurse infinitely, though that pushes the cost up) some words have different meanings ("or" for example is always exclusive or) etc etc
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