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From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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It's The Guardian, so more of a list that defines their rather politically loaded view of the decade. Obviously that sort of bias is not unique to The Guardian, but I'd prefer a list that genuinely sheds light on the times we are in.

Have you found a better list?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Times_and_McKinsey...

better, but different.

Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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It's The Guardian, so more of a list that defines their rather politically loaded view of the decade. Obviously that sort of bias is not unique to The Guardian, but I'd prefer a list that genuinely sheds light on the times we are in.

Honest question, what do you mean by this? In your opinion, what is The Guardian’s bias / “politically loaded view of the decade”?

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Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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Monoculture days are behind us and have been for the past decade, so that is going to be a very very long list.

"Monoculture days are behind us and have been for the past decade, so that is going to be a very very long list." In the context of this discussion, which is about an article for the British audience. How is what you just said not a racist doctrine? The list has a clear agenda of promoting the suppression of British culture and oppessing British people and their voices... Unless they prioritise other races and demoni…

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Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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It's The Guardian, so more of a list that defines their rather politically loaded view of the decade. Obviously that sort of bias is not unique to The Guardian, but I'd prefer a list that genuinely sheds light on the times we are in.

Perhaps not an entirely fair comment... Is 'Gone Girl' a politically loaded choice?

The list as a whole reflects their curious priorities in a definition of the decade.

As for Gone Girl itself, I'm struggling to see it's importance.

Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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It's The Guardian, so more of a list that defines their rather politically loaded view of the decade. Obviously that sort of bias is not unique to The Guardian, but I'd prefer a list that genuinely sheds light on the times we are in.

Monoculture days are behind us and have been for the past decade, so that is going to be a very very long list.

I disagree somewhat - even within a society with a mix of cultures, there we be both tendencies to shared experience, and particularly notable events and themes within that.

Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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It's The Guardian, so more of a list that defines their rather politically loaded view of the decade. Obviously that sort of bias is not unique to The Guardian, but I'd prefer a list that genuinely sheds light on the times we are in.

Have you found a better list?

I haven't looked.

Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question, what do you mean by this? In your opinion, what is The Guardian’s bias / “politically loaded view of the decade”?

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Have there been any canonical or defining books on these topics? Most of them are still playing out so a definitive book would be a huge surprise, and in most cases downright impossible.

Austerity is a policy choice, so any exploration will be deeply and inherently political. Economically, there have been wider views of the current cargo cults in economics, such as Piketty's Capital in the 21st Century, or Keen's Debunking Economics. I'm a little surprised to see mention of neither.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps not an entirely fair comment... Is 'Gone Girl' a politically loaded choice?

The list as a whole reflects their curious priorities in a definition of the decade. As for Gone Girl itself, I'm struggling to see it's importance.

After that novel's success, there was a noticeable upsurge in novels that shared a number of features and styles and themes. I suspect that it was something of a Pulp Fiction effect; reading it again now makes it seem almost derivative, much as Pulp Fiction now looks like a homage to itself.

Granted, this is of importance to the publishing industry and the novel reading public rather than, say, the economy or politics.

Re: From the Big Short to Normal People: Books That Defined the Decade

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It's The Guardian, so more of a list that defines their rather politically loaded view of the decade. Obviously that sort of bias is not unique to The Guardian, but I'd prefer a list that genuinely sheds light on the times we are in.

Isn't this the institutional version of an ad hominem?

Every article from the Guardian, the NYT, or really any other large publisher gets this comment, and it's often voted to the top.

It adds nothing. Everyone knows half of the population doesn't trust any newspaper to get the date on the front page right.

So the Guardian thinks #metoo and the financial crisis were among the topics of salience on the last year? I would actually bet both Bernie Sanders and Rupert Murdoch would agree the financial crisis mattered. And even Harvey Weinstein would agree #metoo had some sort of impact.

Because we might no longer have a shared truth, but there's still quite a lot of agreement on what to disagree about,

There is no "bias-free" book that shaped the decade. Unless you go by print run, and it's the leaflet that comes with every new iPhone. Or go by sales figures, in which case it's 50 Shades of Gray. Which is obviously wrong, but kind of fitting. After all, this seems to be the decade were anything but black and white disappeared.

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